by Obviously Secret 63 Replies latest jw friends
great post and welcome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm 36 , it's been 18 years since my teen years, i see things haven't changed much, same as when i was younger,
I used to run a night club from the age of 22-25, you can only imagine how many witness double lives i saw.
And by the way, what are your doubts in the organization ???
I have learned that the watchtower is one big lie, and i think the younger generations coming up are going to figure it out faster and faster.
Welcome, Secret!
Glad you found your way here. I am going through some of these things with my own teens, so I am going to speak candidly, just the way I talk to my own kids. Please don't take offense because I can see you obviously have some definite feelings about what you are seeing in the org, so here goes:
I am 37 and it was the same when I was a kid in the organization. Now that my kids are teenagers, I see nothing has changed. My kids were just telling me about a JW party they heard about and were invited to. They commented on the hypocrisy and decided they did not want to hang out with a bunch of worldly-wannabees. They would prefer the real thing, I guess.
I tell my kids, because of the hypocrisy and double lives they would have to lead, that the only JW I want them to marry or associate with is an ex-JW.
I have written about my oldest daughter's bf, who is a 18 yo unbaptized publisher. He is skirting the fringes of the org, telling everyone what they want to hear just to keep them off his back about the "truth". He tells me what he thinks I want to hear so he can get into my daughter's pants. My daughter has complained and rolled her eyes a few times because this worldly wannabee boy sometimes has bouts of conscience and spirituality and begins to pressure her into getting farther into the org when she has no desire to do so. When he does this, it is merely the pressure from his JW mother and friends that is manifesting itself. I told the boy tonight, that he was a damn fence-sitter. He comes into my house, eats my food, lays on my couch, conversates freely with me, a known DF'd brother and apostate, dates and has sex with my daughter, then goes to the Kingdom Hall where he pretends to hate me . . . then turns around and tells my daughter that he wants to get baptized and serve Jehovah, and that it won't work if she does not follow suit. I told him if he wanted to continue seeing my daughter, he would either have to shyte or get off the pot. That I would not stand for any more JW hypocrisy in my house. We will see what the results are later when he stops crying his little eyes out after the verbal spanking I gave him.
But yes, dear boy, it is just the same now as it was in my teen years. You too will need to eventually shyte or get off the pot, because living a lie in any case does not make for a very happy life at all. Best of luck to you.
Corvin
Ya even though I'm only 16 I feel that something serious is going to happen about the organization that will bring a major uproar. My doubts are, everything almost. The basic principles are good but just the traditions that they made are all unscritual. My brother is going through a lonely hell at the moment and there is nowhere i have seen in the bible that says a person should go through shunned hell if they do something wrong. Just the control. That's my biggest doubt. I mean I don't even know really. I just don't like it and never liked it ,even before I even knew that there were a thing called apostates, that we listen to magizines made by man more than the bible. What is up with that are they saying that written word by normal men are more reliable than the bible? Another thing is just the plain ignorance by the JW people. I mean we only talk about what THEY tell us to talk about. I tried to ask a question, which is the worse thing i ever could do, about "Why are so many publications? Don't we just need the bible?" My parents are sincible people so they don't go into all too big of an uproar but one and only one "nazi" edler went crazy on me and said I will be just like my brother if I keep that thinking. What the hell is that? My brother is going through hell and your saying I'm going to go through hell if I wonder about the one thing I'm supposed to love? It's just crap.
Andy
i love it, that was good avengers
Uh oh. I'm getting arroused by the picture of the lady running with a picture of her lower backside showing. I shall shun the unwholesome material.
Whoa something just hit my mind. You guys always talking about fear, get this. I have to pee and the restroom is a good 11 steps away but I'm too afraid to go with this website up because they might magically wake up and look at the website.
Whoa I'm sad...
lol, Secret. You have a great sense of humor and seem a bit smarter than the dorky dub dating my daughter. I think you will be just fine.
Wanna meet my daughter . . . ? jk
Corvin
Dang I feel sorry for your daughter. Freakin what a jerk. He needs to have his "Faithful and Discreet" genitals cut off so he can focus a little less on releasing some built up hormones and more on the way he is living his life.
Obvisouly secret this has been going on for years I remember back in 1976 there was some wild witness parties and there was funky dancing and some were going to bring marijuana to the parties I was totally stumbled I stopped my association with the witnesses for the sake to keep my spirituality strong HOW IRONIC I used to work at a restaurant and on the weekends all the elders children would be in there getting stoned and these would be the same kids who would be the first to raise thier hands at the meetings,it really made me sick so no I don't think this is a new age Jehovah witness youth thing this has been going on for years and it MAKES ME SICK HOW HYPOCRITICAL THEY ARE.I remember one congregation where they had to get rid of just about everybody for immorality,elders having fist fights at weddings I can go on and on. The message is great but the leadership and strict rules are what causes all these problems if I were you don't ever get baptized and just coast with them as long as you have to that was what I did and it works great.
