Obviously secret
You're smart and you have a great sense of humour, and you're going to make lots of friends, and it's all going to be okay in the end. Welcome to the board, I think you're a great addition.
New Age Jehovah's Witness Youth
by Obviously Secret 63 Replies latest jw friends
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jgnat
Welcome to the board, Obviously Secret. Your descriptions and your writing style show that you are an insightful obverver of human nature.
This is the "outsider's" point of view, Obviously Secret, as I am not a JW. You are describing a whole category of JW teens who are engaging in risky behavior, and it is OK. ...As long as you keep quiet and do it with other JW kids. It disturbs me greatly that the ultimate sin a JW teen can commit is to engage in "worldly" association. Obviously Secret, you have acted as wild or worse than any teen on the outside. Keep in mind, too, that there are very many youth, going to your school, not Jehovah's Witnesses, who don't get in to trouble, and are secure enough to have wholesome fun with their parents around.
It is almost as if the JW youth are a time-bomb. Some go off, others put on the big show and tick, tick, tick away. This is very unhealthy. This makes me wonder if there are higher rates of alcoholism, STD's, pregnancies, and suicide among JW youth.
Obviously Secret, I would like your opinion. I think there is a third group. JW kids who have left on the inside, but are physically trapped until they are fully independent. Their life is very stressful as well.
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Undaunted Danny
The Rockland Massachusetts USA.Jehovah's Witness congregation's saga of the,COOLS vs. the GEEKS
Power, Prestige,P***X and the compulsion to be "COOL" at all cost.What it means to be 'exemplary'.Exemplary means that you '$how what you owe'.
In 1989 a leading elder { that I trusted } taps me on the shoulder and tells me how he has telephoned the WT$ H.Q. Ivory tower,to inquire on,"how much longer can it last"."It can only 'last' just a few more months is the ominous reply".
Yes sir, this is heavy on my heart. Just how will I be 'found in the day of Jehovah's anger'?Will I 'probably' be saved?How do I conduct myself with the horrific death of nearly 6 billion men women and small children on my conscience?Will I be found 'blood-guilty' for not serving Jehovah to the fullest.[Col.3:23]
Who, should I look to as an example?What about the resident'Bethelite'?He just did a stint at Brooklyn and was a ministerial servant,and is looked up to as "exemplary".He is also considered to be the 'coolest' guy in the hall.In fact he drives a 'cool' two door Saab coupe.{the sisters are drooling over him}.He also subscribes to 'worldly',Rolling stone and Spin magazines.So he can be current with all the latest coolest 'worldly'. trends.
In contrast,I have heeded the WT$'s directive to only purchase a modest,$1,500.00 four door family style sedan.it's very plain and ordinary (geeky) I think it sucks,I'm a 4X4 pickup man myself.But the Ivory tower say's only buy four door sedans to facilitate,'car groups' for the sacred door to door 'field service'.
I'am making $50,000.00 a year and I drive a 'shit box'.because i am donating all my profits to the Watchtower $ociety.I am also at (age 29) still living with mom and dad, to economize on living expenses.I keep my nearly blind from birth mom,furnished with all the necessary appliances for sure.I even bought her a 25" color TV from K-mart.While the most popular( exemplary) family in the church has a wide screen TV.
I bought with cash, for a pioneer, a better car than I have.I am giving Thousands of dollars to the Watchtower's world wide work,while my family and I lives modestly.
For all my sincere earnest toil and goodness,I am loathed and ridiculed by my brothers and sisters at the Rockland congregation.
Sneering at me behind my back.Yes,they tried to pin a 'kick me sign' on my back.Squeezed into their mold a dumb geek,"who is so dum,why he doesn't have the sense to be cool like us".
This is the event that set me free.The god of these ass"wholes" is not the god i will serve.
Looking for Ground zero for all the damage I've caused?
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Obviously Secret
Yes. I am seeing it through my brother right now. He was disfellowshipped a good two and a half years ago. Hearing people talk about how the world took him over since it's taking so long for him to be reinstated. My own parents shun him from anything family orinted. I asked my parents, "Do you think we should start doing more things with Bryan? (my brother) He is going through alot and he has nobody to depend on." they of course said, "Jehovah will see him through, plus, he brung it upon himself." My heart totally dropped when I heard that. I just see it in my brothers eyes, everytime he runs out the meeting teary eyed and drives away and my whole family ignores it. He is going through serious hell.
The JW people are like an old suit that you got for the convention about 6 years ago. You got it to look good for God. However, it slowly goes into the abyss of ugly cloths that you wear when there's nothing else to wear. See? Starts off with good intentions and it ends up being a routine that you secretly hate yet you don't have anything else to wear. I see so many JWs like the suit, start off with good intentions and end up slowly going into the abyss of being a JW because there is absolutely nothing else you can put on..
I know you hate it mom, I was awake when you had that arguement with dad 2 years ago. Lol Its saddening to know that I was born into this world by a man who's penis can on go 5 inches. Sad sad sad.
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Nosferatu
First of all, welcome to the forum Obviously Secret!
Second, Do you ever try to make contact with your disfellowshipped brother? It sounds like he could really use a friend to talk to that isn't going to shun him.
Third, about the whole young JW thing, I was an outcast in the congregation. I was way too different for anyone to take an interest in me. Most JWs think and act the same way. I just couldn't go along with the bullshit.
The only thing I remember being even slightly controversial was Sunday night rollerskating. Many JWs got together at the roller rink. One guy who I kinda got along with was dating a girl (who was 16), and had caused us to get home late, because he had to drop off his girlfriends' sisters. I told my mother what was going on, and she complained.
After this "friend" got married to his girlfriend, I never heard from him again. JWs seem to have a "I can leave you just as fast as I befriended you" attitude. I've had it so many times, and I got completely sick of it.
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Fleur
welcome, secret...
i may have missed something in previous replies so if i did, and i'm repeating anyone else, i apologize. i'm glad you've found your way to this place. it will be an education for you to be sure. at times some of the things you read will seem shocking and unbelievable. do your homework, and things will make sense.
i was one of the 'dedicated' kids. never wore a skirt above the knee, never swore, spent my life with my nose in a book wondering why i was so miserable among jah's happy people. then i realized, there are very few happy people among the throngs and those that are likely have some kind of mental condition. because the extremes that jw's teach can not be reconciled with a normal frame of mind.
i was born in, when i left at 25 i lost all the people i grew up with. maybe a handful of real friends. i think of them now, i hope they get out. it won't be easy for you to deal with all this being you're so young and still at home with jw parents. be careful about your computer browsing, if they find you here it won't be pretty.
i too recommend that you try to make contact with your brother. don't let the borg take someone you love away from you. don't let him feel all alone. if you do, you will live to regret it later, i guarantee it.
keep reading, and talking. you're among those who really understand here.
fleur
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XQsThaiPoes
then i realized, there are very few happy people among the throngs and those that are likely have some kind of mental condition. because the extremes that jw's teach can not be reconciled with a normal frame of mind.
LOL see you normies can't handle the troof. Yes manic depression or other mood dissordeds makes the religion quite intoxicating. It is like a wonderful romance as you go on you emotional rollercoaster.
OS I am 23 a JW I have been to some of those parties they are boring becaue I do have and atractive pioneer sisters to dry hump, and am not much of a drinker. The thing that has changed is not the JWs but the watchtower. Now the WTS is trying to court those double secret people so that when they burn out they will have a religion to hang around between one night stands and hangovers. I would not bother about knowing the truth. you know it already. Most JWs are so blind unlike you and me that they have to read CoC become apostate and picket convension when all most people have to do is read a watchtower then go to a party and see the rift. Yeah we had a magicaly disappearing hall too. They claimed the spanish needed the time slot.
There is nothing wrong with picking JWs for a religion/hobby. Like his daugthers BF. Corvin was being a jerk. There are people just as infromed as him that are still JWs.
Also the thing that may hasten the NEW AGE JWism is the implosion of the JW docterine when they changed the sheep and goat. There is no advantaage of being a great crowd JW vs being worldly anymore. I would like to form a network of JWs like you and the ones you mentioned at the party. So we can start an off grid hall like they do where the work is "baned". Low the baptizm requirements and if we baptized some annoited then we can make some elders. This may sound weird. but we nee a hall that can offer asylum. People like you can help, but too many people just leave. Because it is not the "troof".
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Corvin
There is nothing wrong with picking JWs for a religion/hobby. Like his daugthers BF. Corvin was being a jerk. There are people just as infromed as him that are still JWs.
What the hell are you talking about you babbling incoherent poster?
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xLaurax
Hey obviously secret again!!!
Just returned from alovely day of shopping and pub drinking so sorry it's taken a while for me to reply. I hope that we can become best friends too I love everybody on this board they really do rock!!
I didn't like what you said about being afraid of sex . How awful is that. Especially if your into the kinky kind of sex that alot of people are into (mentioning no names ).How can you be afraid of such a thing, you really must have been mentally tortured if it has gotten that bad.
You get back to reading that watchtower anyway you evil sinner
Talk soon, xLaurax
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XQsThaiPoes
Corvin you hate JWs that use JWism as any other religion a passtime and mind trip. I think people like you miss the point of religion. You don't have to believe it to practice it because it is based on unbelievable things. I am late for the hall cya.