My Turn!

by Derrick 68 Replies latest jw friends

Kent

Dear Prisca
I find it a shame that the ones who posted away to their hearts' content on his board, are now ripping into him like street dogs.
That's not exactly what is happening, Prisca. I know this is your favorite subject, but I simply can't agree. Fact is many of us "posted away" on Rick's board. But it was Rick who started to "rip into" his own posters. As demonstrated by quotes posted by both Norm and myself above.
H20 was THE site to go for dissenting JWs and ex-JWs to come together and share thoughts and experiences. It was a real melting pot of people.
This is true, but so what? Life goes on - and things change. The old melting pots isn't there any more. Old ideas isn't valid, people travel on! What was the right thing yesterday isn't neccesarily the solution for tomorrows problems!
What ruined the meltingpot Rick made was the so called "moderation". Der Rick and his henchmen started up being more and more eager to delete, ban and rule. This is what is normal. Absolute power is corrupting - and they were corrupted.
Regulars such as Kent, farkel, Englishman, unclebruce, tina, waiting, ozziepost, You Know, and FredHall became the "personalities" of H20. For years they posted there. And now they are denigrating the guy who let them rant and rave for all this time.
Without a direct comparism Hitler did a lot of great things before he went crazy - and today everyone is talking about the bad things he did. Is that fair? Maybe, maybe not. I don't care - because that's life.
The fact that some people became "personalities" was THE problem for H2O, and frequent attacks of rabid insanity helped to the problem. We're not denigrating anyone - we just point out the REASON we left, and the REASON H2O IS DEAD NOW!
I do NOT say H2O won't become allive again. I doubt it - but I don't say it won't. But the rantings of Rick in this thread shows there is no change what so ever. He's lying, cheating, accusing others of his own faults, etc. Read what Norm and I posted, Prisca. They are Ricks own words - and compare to his lying self-pity!
Most of them came here. And they get away with more than they ever could on your board. I don't like profanity. I'm no prude, but I'd like to think that people can act with a bit of respect for others.
People should respect others. On the other hand, people need to learn how to handle differences of opinion, and they need to learn the real world isn't like Alice in Wonderland. What we get away with here or there is unimportant.
Profanity? What the fuck is that???? Americans gets offended by everything, Aussies by others - and some people at random. Personally I find it a profanity to state there is a god, and that I should believe in such a fantacy. I find it a profanity to be jufged by "Bible standards", since those standards are - in my opinion - perversities. I find it a profanity to write "**** off!" when someone - like beloved Rick - means FUCK OFF!
I might add that doing what Rick did by writing "**** off!" would be deleted on H2O. It was against the ever changing FPP to avoid the nazi robot!
Rick, I'm sorry that some people don't know how to gracefully walk away.
So do I. It's pathetic coming here crying.
You've put a great deal of time and money into keeping H20 running. If the ones who have disputes don't like you and your DB, all they have to do is leave your site and post elsewhere.
That's just what we did - Prisca! And now that's no good either! I received a mail inviting me to come back, and that's OK. BUt I can't see no reason for never ending complaints I haven't done so at the time being!
That is utter pathetic. You may have another view on this, that's your perfect right. As I have the right to disagree. I don't agree that we should all pretend to be friends, when we honestly feel that this or that person is a complete fool and a bloody idiot. I can't see why I should accept the limited minds of others who will forbid me to use 7 words in the English language. I just refuse to be told I'm some kind of a bully just because I don't want to live as others feel I should live.
I don't say they should be like me - do I? Why should I change to please them? Why not simply accept the differences and live with it. Because that's what we have to do - no matter wether we like it or not!.
Yakki Da
Kent
"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."
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Tina

unc unc unc lol 'clique of depressive atheists" lol
ah galahman I must say I was depressed all the years before jwdumb,during,and a few after. This came from trying to reconcile myth and superstition with reason and logic.....from a book written by unenlightened men in unenlightened times......claiming to be divinely inspired and as such the moral arbiters for all....lol.
I can't tell you how free and open I feel without all that useless existential angst.......in restrospect religion was nothing but burdonsome.....I saw the same in its other forms....and will NEVER go back into that existential bondage again.........luv ya!
WHHHHHHEEEEEEEEE CheekyOwlie,Happy Class
psssssst BETHelMOle's the name
Tina

Excuse me Prisca,
Who is NOT gracefully walking away? Rick is coming here spouting nonsense and lies,,,it's obvious who isnt walking away. If he didnt post this drivel this convo wouldnt be happening.
When he comes and says these things we do have the right to counter.
I for one find this passive female stuff that he espouses offensive. Im not into second class status. Most women would have ripped into him on that one.
Now I appreciate some of my time on h20,and am grateful it was there. But as it happens in life,things do change. The board changed.'Whimsical policy ensued" as another poster put it.
Now when he wants to play St Rick the martyr,it just isnt gonna work.
It seems to me every chance that opens to slam h20 people,you go for it. WHAT is your real beef here? WOuld you like us gone? Or as unc put it is it simply you're a product of witnet and want the postings to reflect that? Please do enlighten me here.
I think this just might tie in with the questions 'waiting' asked you that you never answered as well......care to answer both of us?Tina
psssssst BETHelMOle's the name
Tina

Hi there Kent,
I just wanted to mention something here. For all the accusations rick hurled at you.......this is the kinda guy you are:
You were banned from the site yet you asked me to invite rick to your birthday celebration.remember? You gave me the complete menu to post as well as offering to put him up(I think even pay for the flight as well) If this didnt show your friendship,I dont know what else possibly could.
So when peeps want to make you out as such a bad guy,maybe they need to know these things,luv ya .Tina
psssssst BETHelMOle's the name
Roamingfeline

Rick, I'm sorry that some people don't know how to gracefully walk away. You've put a great deal of time and money into keeping H20 running. If the ones who have disputes don't like you and your DB, all they have to do is leave your site and post elsewhere.
It's quite simple really.

Well, golly gee, aren't WE the intelligent one, Prisca? Or have you not yet figured it out that we are in a different forum than H20, and that is exactly what all the posters did? It's QUITE SIMPLE REALLY. Could it perhaps be that YOU'RE the actual cat with the vacant stare, sitting looking out the window? [8>]
Then Rick has the utter gall to come over HERE and start in on them!
RCat
Kent

Hi Tina
Yes, I did ask you to invite Rick for me. Unfortunately he never bothered to answer to the invitation.....
Yakki Da
Kent
"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."
Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
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Prisca

Kent - who said the following?
I agree that there is too much profanity on this board at the moment, too many insults and name calling which doesn't make it the welcoming or supportive place I would want it to be - that is my headache for the short term at least.

If you're not sure, scroll up the screen a little. Remember who is the owner of this site. If you can't respect his wishes, and those of other "guests" here, then I wonder what is your real motive for being here. You espouse on your right to use foul language, yet you refuse to acknowledge the right for others to NOT have to put up with posts with gratuitous use of the "F" word. Worse still, you ignore the wishes of the one who put this site here innthe first place.
tina said :
It seems to me every chance that opens to slam h20 people,you go for it. WHAT is your real beef here? WOuld you like us gone? Or as unc put it is it simply you're a product of witnet and want the postings to reflect that? Please do enlighten me here.
Hmm, tina, do I "slam" you in the chat room? Do I snarl and bite everytime you come in? Or do I welcome you, often with a smiley face and a hug?
I don't have a "beef" where anyone comes from. I find the constant references to witnet amusing, as it is a now-defunct DB, and most of the posters from there who came here now post under different names, so quite frankly, I don't really know if they are an ex-witnet poster or not.
I think this just might tie in with the questions 'waiting' asked you that you never answered as well......care to answer both of us?
I don't think waiting's questions related to the questions I originally asked in the first post on that thread. She didn't answer the questions I asked. Instead she threw in unrelated and unsubstianted accusations. In subsequent postings, she became more and more sarcastic and nasty as her friend roamingfeline egged her on. Hang on a minute... waiting DID answer my questions - in the way she responded. She showed exactly why fighting and personal insults aren't part of a "welcoming or supportive place" (Simon's words, not mine ).
Prisca

Could it perhaps be that YOU'RE the actual cat with the vacant stare, sitting looking out the window?

Roamingfeline - i noticed you added that extra bit to your post as I was writing my reply.
What are you going on about? (or '"what are you on" might be more appropriate!)
Kent

Hi Prisca, or should I say - Your Holiness?
I am perfectly aware what Simon is saying, and I'm perfectly aware that he feels it's too much "profanity". Regrettably you are trying the old "Red Herring" trick, since I just explained to you I don't accept your deceitful shit with "F" words and self-made rules of "profanity". Besides, I'm not Simon.
You said: If you can't respect his wishes, and those of other "guests" here, then I wonder what is your real motive for being here. What "other guests"? I know flawlessly well there are people here who don’t share my views, and I acknowledge that. I have no monopoly of the way of doing things. But maybe it would be a thought to scrutinize your own views. The reason for this is the fact you don’t either!
I do admit there is people her which I personally find so extraordinarily dense it amazes me they are able to tie their own shoe laces, and I’m not really sure they do. Some people here are in a group in need of a support group for “Ex-Humans”! And so what? They have the same right to express themselves as I do – or as you do. I don’t say they can’t say what they feel, and I never try to make others suppress their opinions.
Sadly you are among those lacking a great deal in the respect of communicating with others. You simply decline to answer to the questions put to you, either because you feel you’re too self-righteous to do so, feel the person asking is too stupid to deserve an answer, or you are too slow to grasp the question.
I know you could quote me refusing to answer and explain self-explanatory things to teejay and DannyBear, but I actually did explain in an earlier post. When someone is too f****** stupid (to be a hypocrite like your great ideal Rick, and not using “F” words) to understand what I say, I simply don’t care to elucidate the same stuff over and over.
You said to Tina: Hmm, tina, do I "slam" you in the chat room? Do I snarl and bite everytime you come in? Or do I welcome you, often with a smiley face and a hug? Why did you say that? It’s not what Tina was talking about, and you know that perfectly well. This said because you’re not stupid – and as a result you tried to steer clear of the question instead of answering.
Tina was talking about what you said and did on THIS board, not what you did in the chat. You knew that, but it suited you to “misunderstand” – is that it?
I don't think waiting's questions related to the questions I originally asked in the first post on that thread. She didn't answer the questions I asked. Instead she threw in unrelated and unsubstianted accusations. In subsequent postings, she became more and more sarcastic and nasty as her friend roamingfeline egged her on.
How cute, Prisca! Waiting didn’t ask you the way you feel she should! She didn’t answer me, so I won’t answer you. I don’t wanna play with you no more, you’re mean – buhuuuu.
What a pathetic display of hurt feelings. What should she say: Please Mrs. Almighty Goddess, Would It Please Your Holiness To Answer My Humble Question? In these discussions about H2O you obviously have an axe to grid, and you don’t like people expressing other opinions. How come?
How come your ideas are so much more precious than others? How come others never comprehend anything, and how come you out of the blue became the oracle in Delphi? Said in another way: Who the fuck died and made you God?
When you don’t like Roamingfeelines comments, you use the tactics you allegedly hate. Sarcasm. “What are you on?” That’s the terrible way assholes like me use, right? It’s nothing for a pure soul like you, being more or less out of business by all the “profanity” on the board!
Let’s examine this statement:
You espouse on your right to use foul language, yet you refuse to acknowledge the right for others to NOT have to put up with posts with gratuitous use of the "F" word. Worse still, you ignore the wishes of the one who put this site here innthe first place.
Why can’t you just stop reading my postings? The so called “F” word you are so obsessed about never did kill anyone – but people like you actually did! People that don’t accept others at all – unless they become like they are! And then I ignore Simon’s wish. Wow! Honestly, I don’t think you give a shit what Simon thinks in this respect. You are much more preoccupied what YOU feel. YOUR views are the ones that are to be observed, right?
I never said anyone should read my postings, and nobody has to. You do see what postings I have made, and you know perfectlu well these MAY include one of the 7 forbidden words in the English language. How come it’s so much worse saying fuck than promoting hate? How come suck me suddenly became “giving head” – and why is that more disgusting than reading about and watching people getting killed?
Personally, I don’t hive a shit – excuse me, I’ll follow Rick – Sh*t – and I don’t really care about hypocritical whining. You might say I have no right to say this – but I have. I might not be right – but that’s my privilege too!
And – I think I DO know what Simon feels about this. His “problem” is he’s a grown man – and no child any more!
Yakki Da
Kent
"The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."
Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
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Roamingfeline

Prisca, if you have to ASK what I'm going on about, then I already proved my point.
RCat

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