My Turn!

by Derrick 68 Replies latest jw friends

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    Simon wrote:

    > Managing a forum is such a difficult tightrope to walk isn't it?!

    Sometimes it felt like I was in the ocean wearing a lead vest and at the same time trying to keep my nose and mouth above water long enough to gasp some air! I would carry my laptop I otherwise would have left at home on vacation, business trips, etc. Imagine visiting family or friends out of state carrying this laptop, and modeming-in to my ISP to maintain H2O? I'm sure you know this drill well. It got very tedious.

    Why didn't I give it up? Because people convinced me that H2O was needed.

    Why didn't I close H2O on February 6, 2001 when Infonex Information Services in La Mesa, California, unceremoniously pulled the plug? I was ready to! I didn't because again people convinced me that H2O was needed.

    I wanted to do something that helped people and my Australian friends presented me with this once in a lifetime opportunity to give of myself for something really worthwhile. However, it was the many people (you know who you are out there!) who cheered me on to the "finish" line, and BEYOND.

    Simon, if you noticed, Aimoo has performed a massive upgrade. The site is so fast it's like I'm paying a fortune for a private server (and this with the banner ads, which will DISAPPEAR in a few weeks when I again dig into my pockets). However, even with the ads it's faster than I ever dreamt possible even if I paid a bundle to get a new, fast private server. I'm tickled to death about this, but admittedly that's just superficial. Something DEEPER has changed!

    We have revamped the moderator system, so that H2O operates much like you operate. Thanks to you setting a fine example, we have "reformed" OURSELVES! Sure would have been hypocritical to try reforming the organization of Jehovah's Witnesses if we cannot even reform ourselves.

    Finally, I'm no longer available as a "red herring" to be used, i.e., "Rick, even if all these things are true, and it appears they are, it is YOU that is keeping everyone away!" Well, that is totally bunk according to many, but even so, it's no longer available to legitimately use as a reason! Why?

    Because the proverbial "buck" no longer stops at my proverbial "cyberdesk" at H2O!

    To the chagrin of many who have enjoyed so many months of "Rick bashing," the Forum Director who is a brother is also making decisions about the operation of H2O. I have slowly turned more and more decisions over to him, as I'm less involved in its day to day management. That is why I created the ID called "CogentMinded" on H2O a month or so ago, he requested something to the extent I do this so nobody can claim I'm using H2O to give weight to my views. I agreed and no longer post my views using H2O's administrative ID. You might want to do the same, Simon, because I'd love to hear your views!

    Eventually, the Forum Director might take-over H2O entirely if I ever decide to bow out. Nobody knows the Forum Director like they know myself, because he never posted any of his viewpoints under his FD screen name. (I suspect he might be amongst us under another ID, and I hope so; I could have kept my ID as it relates to H2O a secret, but figured that my past outspokenness and sudden secretive new screen name would cause people to claim I was being "dishonest" if anyone figured out that "CogentMinded" was Rick! That is why I made it clear up front.)

    The H2O that existed in the past has metamorphosed from its cocoon into a butterfly, sitting over there quietly with few to see its changes. Its management has also changed in that I'm having less of a role in deciding how to address problems that arise. As an analogy, I'm like the CEO whom everyone claimed ran the company into the ground (even if he personally knows this is far from truth), who decided to turn over more decision making to another executive. Even if I'm CEO, it's really in name only. H2O's Forum Director is really doing most of the decision making, although I'm working to improve myself! Wouldn't it be sad if I let Farkel's negativity injure my self-esteem to the point that I said, "Farkel's right, I'm worthless, I destroyed H2O and there's no point in trying to improve myself or H2O! I'll just sit here and punish myself with guilt until the day I croak!" Thanks to some wonderful parents my self-esteem is quite intact after Farkel and others' tirades about both H2O's and my worthlessness.

    As a last analogy, I ignored the advice of those who, after trashing the place, said as their parting shot, "Rick, you did a terrible paint job and screwed up the house, so you might as well abandon it, nobody will ever occupy that ugly structure again!" Instead, I quietly worked with the Forum Director and others to rebuild the house, give it many fresh coats of paint, and even refurbish it from the foundation up with all new materials. Even new landscaping. That's probably why Farkel is even more hostile now in his replies to me. I guess his face turned beet red and ego started to deflate when he drove by the house recently. Here I tried to make peace with him, but he won't let it go. Oh well, sometimes it takes some with bigger egos longer to deflate and forgive, than others.

    > I can't thank you enough for all the effort you put into H2O which helped me personally immensely as did the people who posted on it. I don't agree with some of the sentiments that have been expressed about H2O.

    I would love to know what screen name you came to H2O under, so I can learn about your views in the H2O archives back to August 1996! If you don't feel comfortable revealing that information I understand.

    I'm thankful to have been able to help you, which is manifest in your love for so many by extending the originally intended benefits of H2O to so many more through this site! I also had a feeling you didn't agree with some of the sentiments that have been expressed about H2O, and appreciate you confirming that. It's nice to know that I'm not the insane idiot who refuses to take his medication that Kent paints me out to be! ;-) Although I already knew that, your kind comments help solidify it.

    > I agree that there is too much profanity on this board at the moment,

    Amen and amen.

    > too many insults and name calling

    Another breath of fresh air!

    > which doesn't make it the welcoming or supportive place I would want it to be - that is my headache for the short term at least.

    I don't envy what you are going through. I felt a piercing pain in my heart when I was busy dousing the flames coming out of the organization, and suddenly the water pressure died. I looked over to the fire hydrant and there Farkel and a group of others stood, sneering back at me. I just laid in bed and cried that night, on that first day my eyes were opened to the realization that for every two steps H2O was moving the organization forward, the gang causing H2O to then move it three steps backwards. We live in a very fragile eco-system on this communications medium called the Internet, and it's truly like "The Glass House" that I'll never forget Goldie describing so eloquently on H2O years ago.

    Rick

  • Kent
    Kent

    You never even acknowledged Aimoo's upgrade of server to where loading posts and posting is instantaneous. That tells me you have never even been there, and keep harping about the past. Why not live in the present? Pretending we're in the past will not make H2O revert back to its older mistakes or cause Aimoo's massive server and bandwidth upgrades to revert back to the slow site that got so many complaints!

    Oh. please! What the fuck has the servers to do with anything?

    Yakki Da

    Kent

    "The only difference between God and Adolf Hitler is that God is more proficient at genocide."

    Daily News On The Watchtower and the Jehovah's Witnesses:
    http://watchtower.observer.org

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    Kent said:

    > You tried for more than 3 years to boot me!

    Such integrity in posting "fact"! Those who helped me administer H2O such as its Forum Director know, besides myself, that I fought based on my belief in free speech for you to remain a member! You're sure an ingrate for attacking me instead of those responsible. It was you who abused H2O for years until your final 30 day suspension! I practically let you get away with proverbial "murder" for years but you got so out of control, I couldn't come up with a reason not to suspend you. I hoped it would bring you to your senses. Afterall 30 days is mild compared to many sites that ban for life or much longer periods. (That "ban" was a slap on the wrist and you have the gall to complain?)

    Also, you are NOT booted now, and you're acting silly! What you just said that I quoted above makes the word liar fit you like a glove, to tell it to you like you love to tell it to me. Stop forcing that glove on me, and wear it.

    Believe it or not, I had high hopes for you sharing your knowledge of Watchtower Society wrongdoing on H2O in a manner that would not scare away every JW within miles of the site. You abused your posting privileges to death, jeopardizing the purpose of H2O, causing so many to leave in disgust, and the piper had to get paid, as they say. A 30 day suspension in hindsight was a slap on the wrist! Stop whining. You're not banned now, and I could do it, if I was the type of individual you claim! Which I'm not.

    Rick

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    Kent, those quotes actually vindicate me. I stand behind every word I posted.

    Rick

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    Norm, you know it would take days to verify word for word those quotes and more importantly yet, to make certain they are not wrenched out of context. However, in glancing over many things I said, I think you're attempting to whitewash the topic by dumping this ream of material from the H2O archives here. You see, most people will not take the time to read this much material, and will conclude that since you posted it, the material must be damning to Rick!

    Before anyone judges me, please don't assume that because Norm, Kent or anyone else quotes reams of material, it must prove their case!

    Either read the material word for word or reserve judgment. Otherwise I'm being false accused.

    What really tips me off to a snow-job here, is that in glancing over my quoted posts, I still agree 100% with what I wrote! What I wrote, if anyone reads it, actually vindicates me and calls into serious question the accusations of a few here!

    Reverse psychology and propaganda are evidently well worn tools of the trade by a few people on this site. ;-)

    Rick

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    You're right, Marilyn, I should simply tell them to **** themselves! ;-)

    Thanks for your kind words and upbuilding email. We find out who our true friends are in difficult times, and you have proven one of them.

    Rick

  • Tina
    Tina

    Hello rick,
    I do want to apologize for my knee-jerk emotive reaction to your post.
    I do want to thank you for the time and work you spent on providing a place for us when we needed it.
    WHile many things have gone awry,you are never a worthless human being. I see your hurt and anger.
    In friendships risks are always involved because sharing must be honest,open and deeper that the superficial niceties and comments.
    While I disagree with your thoughts,and your assessments of some people, I appreciate that you disclosed them.
    Relationships whether online or r/l mean we expose ourselves,make ourselves vulnerable. WHile this can be a great demand,it also offers great rewards.
    We each must accept our responsibility for half the realtionship. In this way only can we support each other.
    My wishes for you are positive and for your board as well. Hugs,Tina

    psssssst BETHelMOle's the name

  • Derrick
    Derrick

    Thanks, Prisca.

    > Rick, I'm sorry that some people don't know how to gracefully walk away. You've put a great deal of time and money into keeping H20 running. If the ones who have disputes don't like you and your DB, all they have to do is leave your site and post elsewhere.

    Agreed. The reason it's staying open is that we have recognized legit errors and worked in the past month or two on fixing these errors. Our site is fast with their new server upgrades. We can get rid of the banner ads in the next few weeks. And I have found software that functions almost identically to Coolboard's and Aimoo's and Simon's combined for under $1,000. If Aimoo bites the dust I might just open a private site on a really fast server.

    What keeps me going? Knowing over 6,000,000 JWs haven't even scratched the surface of the Internet or logged on, and knowing I have learned from the last few years running H2O to "make it right" this next go-around. (And I'm learning from Simon, the student has indeed become the master as goes the ancient proverb. It's a humbling experience to become the student.)

    Once we master the talent of moderating a board the way it's successfully done all over the Internet at many sites, there won't be any room for all the namecalling and negativity we've endured at H2O and now at Simon's forum. These disruptive elements will quickly fade away for lack of a source of "well water" to nourish their disruptive activities. ;-)

    Rick

  • Jang
    Jang

    Tina, That was very gracious of you to post Rick like that.

    We all have glass feet that can shatter so easliy, and we all have weaknesses in one area or another.

    Thankyou for doing that.

    JanG
    CAIC Website: http://caic.org.au/zjws.htm
    Personal Webpage: http://uq.net.au/~zzjgroen/

  • Tina
    Tina

    Thank you for the kind words Jan!
    He is going thru a tuff time,I do feel for him. We are in this business of 'life' together......hugs,T

    psssssst BETHelMOle's the name

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