You can't describe real LOVE you can only decribe what it isn't. (page 4)

frankiespeakin

Nark,

Do you think love has an opposite like hate or indifference?

I tend to think of love (my concept love) as having no opposite.

You mean, when I bathe my wife and massage her with oils, it's not love? You mean, when I cook for my wife, it's not love? You mean, when I take her out to dinner every week, that's not love? You mean, taking care of her when she's not feeling well, is not love? If that's not describing love then what is it? Do you want me to carry on? Guest77

Narkissos

Frankie,

Exactly what I meant.

frankiespeakin

Nark,

I was kind of leaning that that's what you meant so I asked a question to see.

Golf,

You mean, when I bathe my wife and massage her with oils, it's not love?

Would you bath any man, woman, or monkey that way without impartiality then perhaps I would say that is love. You bath your wife because you are partial to her,,you are attracted to her sexually,,she no doubt treats you good too so you are perhaps evening up the score and trying to be grateful for her care for you. Do you ever get mad at you wife?If you were mad at her could you still give her bath with tender feelings?If you got a divorce and she remairred and you also got remarried would you go over her house and give her a bath.

I'm not saying that you don't have a warm feeling of what we call love in you for your wife. I'm saying it is not pure real love which is not partial.

frankiespeakin

Love is not controlling in anyway??

If love controls does it control by not controlling? in any way??If it does control,, it is the way it should be because love is pure and does not follow corrupting desires,, desires in fact should not mean anything to love because love is not a personal "I" Love must not be personal that is too limiting.

BrendaCloutier

Love and its opposits.... Love vs. Hate. No, not opposit, but passion in it's extremes.

I believe the opposit of love is apathy.

Former, you've brought up some very good points. Not that I fully accept them, but good to ponder.

I used the "god is love" stuff, not that I necessarily believe it, but as a point of Love being a powerful core force with a will behind it.

Probably the closed that love is, is that it IS. Yet for us humans, it is and needs to be a verb. Without taking possitive action, we allow the negative to infiltrate and overwhelm. Again, I prefer to think of love in the possitive, instead of the negative, yet acknowleging the negative without giving it energy.

Hugs and peace

Brenda

frankiespeakin

Brenda,

I used the "god is love" stuff, not that I necessarily believe it, but as a point of Love being a powerful core force with a will behind it.

I see,, I'm glad that your not beleiveing,,keeps you flexiable and young in your mind. So you are saying a personality may not be behind the core of "everything". Good keep it open,,like that.

How about this idea: Love being the core of everything,,but not Love from a person or Love that is personal,, but completely impersonal,,no judgeing,,no imparitality,,no personal "I" or "it" to offend or please,, just awareness that is everywhere instantly in all dimensions but belongs to "no thing".

Now I'm not saying the above is true,,but if we think outside the box,,we free the mind to work broader,,stay flexible in the imagination.

Real love is not selfish so can a person retain "selfhood" and experience and understand this love? Maybe and maybe not,,you would need a very clever imagination.

Golf

FS, so being married to the same women for 42 years, means, the joke is on me! Hmmmmmm, then how do you explain, I love jokes?

frankiespeakin

Golf,

You are taking it personal. There is no joke on you.

We are simply discussing what and how to describe real love,,which can not have any selfish or other contrary motive.

Golf

Personal you say? Then why did I insert, "...how do you explain, I love jokes?" Guest77

You can't describe real LOVE you can only decribe what it isn't.

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