I'm one!Gumby
Liar, liar pants on fire.
by imnottheonlyone! 83 Replies latest jw friends
I'm one!Gumby
Liar, liar pants on fire.
ive already posted but ive got to post again. you see, im not a born again or a jw, but after this post, i will be a JUNIOR MEMBER!!!!
Can you see this freedomfrog
love from Holly
JUNIOR MEMBER
Born Again Christian, Jehovahs Witness, Mormon....it spells the same to me...its all organised religion...and that spells danger in my eyes...why allow another human to tell you how to worship...what to worship...when to worship? What gives another human the right to say he or she is closer to god without physical proof...that would be blasphemy dont you think?
Well, yeah because it takes people to make a religion. Mental illness is everywhere amongst the populations of people. I would think though, that for the person who is predisposed to mental illness, that being involved in a very strict, smothering religion could be a big trigger.
So very true. You may care to tell that to other clinical psychologists and mental health professionals who publicly state that the incidence of mental illness is higher among the JWs than in the general population. This is where assumptions become interestingly contestable. There have been other threads on this topic lately.
Hey One,
My congrats to you for making it out. I think we are all the special ones. We were brave enough to go against the tide-to stand up for what's right and take the consequences. Your search is perfectly normal and heathly. The one big problem with this label - "Born Again" is that it puts many people back in that same mindset. Me against You. "We have to convert you. " We have to save you. " Born Again Christians are also connected with the RABTURE--where God or Jesus will take only the ones that are considered SAVED and take them up to heaven to be with him forever while leaving all the "bad" people (non-Christians) down here to experience death and destruction. I had a freind who was an XBorn Again--he had many of the same horrible experiences and issues as a XJW. Told me how fearful he was all his young life. His greatest fear was that on those days when he would wake up and not see his parents at home, he thought perhaps the rapture had come and he was left behind for not being worthy. YUK--the same old fear-base thinking we were fed as JW's.
I'll tell you sincerely--FREEDOM- from all that is so sweet. There are many positive, joyful, life-enhancing, put a smile on your face everyday concepts and teachings that are so much more advanced than these primitive religions that insists are labeling people and religions as Good and Bad--Worthy/UnWorthy. Try inclusive belief systems, rather than exclusive. Universal rather than Separation. Hope you can use any of this. It comes from years of searching, reading, experiencing, trying and tasting it all, conversing with variety of people, seminars, praying, meditating, etc. etc. Hope this helps-----
I don't know *what* I am, or what constitutes being a "Born-Again". I went through a variety of emotions and views about religion/God when I left the WTS.
I went through believing in God, but no longer a JW.
Then I went through feeling bitter towards God (WHY did he allow me to be duped for so many years when I had prayed and prayed during my "study" period that it WAS what HE wanted of me)
For a while I didn't pray or make any reference to God in my life and in my posts here.
Then, for a series of reasons, I prayed and asked Jesus to come into my heart, and to help me through this feeling of a gaping hole in me. Immediately the tightness in my gut melted away and I felt so warm and so calm.
If that's the meaning of a "born-again" Christian, then I guess I'm one. I don't attend any church because I don't go out very much, but I'm not adverse to going to one.
I wonder........if we are asked to pray for one of our members here, would this be annoying to some posters?
Would it be considered as pushing religion on the others?
I'm really appalled at the comment one poster has made.
Annie
I consider myself non Christain in the sense I don't believe Jesus was the Christ. He was just a man that made a few good points. I think the important thing is what Jesus said as to loving one another. One does not need a religion or a label to be a better human being. If you choose to be born again, that is great, just leave your beliefs to yourself.
Will
I am a born again Christian. I attend the Catholic Church near my house and love it.
Love, Jaypeeto
Why does a person that has left one dysfunctional religion want to gravitate to another dysfunctional religion. A friend gave me a book by a Born Again Christian. I am not at home right now and I can't recall the name of it but I am sure if I said mentioned the name many Born Againers would know what book I am talking about. Being an open minded person I read the book and highlighted a few points in it. I have to disagree with ones that posted on here saying that being Born Again is not controlling theology. The theme through the whole book is all to do with making one feel guilty if they do not do what the book says. Also through the book they mentioned about "tithing" 10% of your money to their church. It would be a cold day in hell before I would give 2 cents to any religious cause.
Will
No offence! But they're all as daft as brushes. I am able to back up this opinion because of my experience of being a JW for 40 odd years and friends who are BA Christians.
Today though really took my breath away.
i am friends with a family of BA Christians. They were missionaries of that faith for twenty years and now he's a minister where I live. He is very unwell with a bad back but won't go to the Drs because he's leaving the problem 'in the Lord's hands!'
He says that he has to practice what he preaches. He has been to many meetings where the blind have seen again, the lame walked and the dead come back to life.
I said : 'They do that everyday in hospitals. And you don't have to pray or pay either.' (we're in the UK)
He said nothing.
I've heard similar crap from JWs over the years about leaving their illnesses in Jehovah's hands.
As far as I'm concerned stay away from ALL organized religions. They corrupt your thinking abilities.