I'm a born again pagan!!
EX JW who are now Born Again Christians?
by imnottheonlyone! 83 Replies latest jw friends
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LittleToe
CB:
What does the phrase "born again" mean to you?
I'm curious, because you seem to be advocating a continued relationship-based "Christian" life. Is being "born again" not synonymous?
(That isn't intended to be argumentative. I'm genuinely interested in your perspective).Didier:Here's the rub (and to give you a heads-up on where I'm at).
When I mentally left the dubs I worked through the Arminian perspective of Election through to the Calvinist one. I'm working my way back through again, because neither extreme end of the spectrum is totally satisfying "experientially". I'm even toying with the Universalist perspective, because of certain "experiential" anomalies, though I have a vague notion that the extreme end of that won't satisfy, either.I'm still looking forward to reading Barth.
Sherry:
"Of course you are!" (said in best Connery voice - see Pussy Galore in "Octopussy") -
Gill
What's with the need to have someone else tell you how to feel and think?
Having escaped a lifetime of JWism I find I'm a better, kinder more tolerant person, on the whole. I'm not afraid to speak my mind because I finally trust it, it isn't evil and bad and satan hasn't taken it over just because I've left a religion.
When I speak to local BA christians I hear the same as JWs to a certain extent which immeadiately turns me off.
Though I like them as people their thoughts are again constrained and controlled.
I feel sure that God isn't only interested in people who claim a religion, though I'm still wondering if he's all that interested at all,....sometimes.
Just my humble opinion.
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codeblue
LT:
The subject of the thread is: "exjw who are now Born Again Christians"...
To be BORN AGAIN is to be saved by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ...
I felt even as a JW, when I dedicated my life to do God's will and accepted Jesus as my savior (he gave his life for us) and got baptized and tried to live my life the way Jesus did when he was on the earth, that fit in to the description as BORN AGAIN. I know the JW's don't endorse that phrase...but in my mind...according to the scriptures, I was born again.
We even had one circuit overseer who's message was the life of Jesus and how can we show people that we believe in him and live our life as a footstep follower of him. (very unusual Circuit Overseer...always wondered what happened to him)
I don't need to be born again just because I am not in the JW religion. I have already accepted Jesus as my savior many years ago.
Hope this answers your question...
CodeBlue
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whyamihere
I am not a Born again Christain. I would say I am re-living. Starting new with a completely new out look on life. I am not going to jump from one Religion to the next. I am going to find myself and start really living.
Brooke
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CinemaBlend
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What does the phrase "born again" mean to you?
I'm curious, because you seem to be advocating a continued relationship-based "Christian" life. Is being "born again" not synonymous?
(That isn't intended to be argumentative. I'm genuinely interested in your perspective).
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To me, "born again" means religous wacko.
Sorry, you asked! Forgive my bluntness. Just trying to answer honestly.
I'm not advocating anything, much less anything having to do with substituting one flawed version of a flawed religion for another flawed version of the same flawed religion. -
LittleToe
Cinema:
I was asking CodeBlue.To me, "born again" means religous wacko.
So you've pigeonholed all those folks, huh? Gee ta!
It doesn't require being religious at all, but I guess you didn't know that... -
Gill
LT - with respect, of course, can you explain why being a BA Christian does not require being 'religious'?
My own experience, and only my experience, is that they, being my neighbour, folks across the road, parents of other kids at school want to shove their bible down your throat much as the JWs and have the same Zeal! But I fell this Zeal is a requirement of their faith or religion.
Are you a nicer BA Christian?
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LittleToe
Gill:
Because the "born-again" title is a misnomer. It simply mean being a Christian, or as most Christians will tell you "having a personal relationship with Christ". This doesn't require religion, albeit the experience often comes via the "tool" of religion.Some would state this as a one off occasion (being reborn), some would have this as a continuous experience.
Unfortunately it's been latched onto as a title for several more extreme denominations, especially in the USA. Here in Britain it's usually associated with the more Charismatic churches, like the "Assemblies of God"/"Pentecostal Church".
THis is why I don't usually go around saying I'm a born-again Christian (a redundant use of words, IMHO), but it would be accurate to say that I felt I was "reborn" in 2001.
This is also one of the reasons that if I must claim a title, it's usually that of "unorthodox Christian".I'm not a number (or pigeon-holable), I'm an individual!
Just my 2p.
Edited to add:PS By far the majority of "born-again" folks that I know are just normal people who live a quiet life and don't shove anything. I'm sorry that your only experience is negative.
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ozziepost
It simply mean being a Christian, or as most Christians will tell you "having a personal relationship with Christ". This doesn't require religion, albeit the experience often comes via the "tool" of religion.
Some would state this as a one off occasion (being reborn), some would have this as a continuous experience.
That's the way i see it too.
Unfortunately it's been latched onto as a title for several more extreme denominations, especially in the USA.
Try telling that to the Merrycans!