by Check_Your_Premises 111 Replies latest jw experiences
check_your_premises,
Given what you've said, you'd be wise to consult a family law attorney sooner rather than later. She will be pressured to either get you to join her cult, or divorce you. Good legal planning can help you avoid at least some of the adverse consequences that might be inevitable. I'm sorry to hear of your situation and hope your wife experiences a lucid interval. Good luck!
They won't have time to investigate but they will have to tell her that she's got to wait while they "check it out" (trust me this happened to me and I had to wait!)
That is really interesting. I am not sure if your exact idea would be best, but what other ways could I get the elders to want to "wait"?
...oh you poor man,
good luck, Frank
She will be pressured to either get you to join her cult, or divorce you.
I have heard that from a few people, but the vast majority have told me that the only way she can divorce me is if I commit adultery. So how is she going to divorce me.
I have heard that from a few people, but the vast majority have told me that the only way she can divorce me is if I commit adultery. So how is she going to divorce me.
She can claim "spiritual endangerment". She might not divorce you but she can legally separate from you with the elders blessings. If I were you I would not allow your kids to be raised dubs. That is no kind of life.
"spiritual endangerment"
How do I qualify for that? What would I have to do for her to claim that?
I have heard that from a few people, but the vast majority have told me that the only way she can divorce me is if I commit adultery. So how is she going to divorce me.
That is simple... over time her heart will come to belong to the organization more than you. She will become frustrated that you will not become a JW and will start to resent you. Once she reaches this point she will make your life a living hell hoping that you will leave her.
I've seen it happen with others.
I will give you my parents example. My mom left my dad because of that BS excuse. He would not let her take us to meetings and would bring up jw doctrine. Like their end of the world dates. He also read "apostate" literature at the house. So basically he was considered an opposer and therefore a danger to her spirituality.
http://www.nextwish.co.uk/1975.jpg check out that link. It has a scanned copy of a Watchtower from 1968 predicting 1975 as the end of the world. They have had numerous false preditions, proving the are FALSE!
Then, have her read Deut. 18:20-22, from her own bible.
WTBTS consider the UN the Wild Beast that carries Babylon the Great - the Harlot. Yet, they paid into the UN as an NGO, Non Government Organization, which requires the NGO's literature to support the UN... which the WTBTS did, after decades of vehement slanderous statements against the UN. They re-upped their contract for 10 years before it became public knowledge then immediately dropped the association like a hot potato and said they only wanted a library card for access. I offer a well written quote from a friend who is doing some anti-witnessing on Ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6157457202&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT NOTE YOU MUST USE CUT AND PASTE OR THE LINK WILL NOT WORK DUE TO A HIC IN THE JWD SOFTWARE===============================================
Here's some background as to the story:
October 30, 2001
Responding to criticism from current and former members the Watch Tower Society (parent organization for Jehovah's Witnesses) this month withdrew its formal association with the United Nations as a NGO (non-government affiliate organization). The Watch Tower Society had quietly affiliated with the UN in 1991 in an agreement to "support the Charter" of the United Nations--also agreeing to promote the UN among its members.
Watch Tower publications have long labeled the UN as one of the "beasts" of the biblical book of Revelation--the archenemy of the kingdom of God. Some critics of the 6 million member denomination, well known for its aggressive door to door missionary work, believe this is the greatest scandal to hit Watch Tower leadership. "It's comparable to a Catholic finding out that the Vatican had privately agreed to support Planned Parenthood and abortion rights, "stated ex-member David Brown of Central Point, Oregon.
The refusal of Witnesses to salute a flag, perform military service, vote or hold public office has often brought them official persecution. Apparently, the Watch Tower Society's affiliation with the United Nations was to get help in their religious freedom struggles. "Their affiliation with the UN as a NGO was much more than just registering with the UN to get help for their members," says Brown.
In a letter explaining the sect's withdrawal as a UN affiliate, UN official Paul Hoeffel states that NGO membership involves "support and respect of the principles of the Charter of the United Nations and commitment and means to conduct effective information programmes with its constituents and to a broader audience about UN activities." The Watch Tower Society's affiliation with the UN gave them political clout, status and connections they could not have had otherwise. The connection was not announced in Witness publications and was only recently discovered when it was noticed that the Watch Tower Society was listed on a UN webpage as a NGO member.
The public criticism of this connection led to the Watch Tower's disassociation as a UN affiliate. "In October 2001, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York requested termination of its association with DPI[Department of Public Information of the UN]. Following this request, the DPI has made decisions to disassociate the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York as of 9 October 2001," explains UN official Hoeffel.
Membership as a NGO of the UN required annual re-certification. "There have been several seemingly positive articles in the Witnesses' news magazine Awake! discussing the UN in the past few years. It seemed out of character to read such things in Watch Tower publications but it didn't make sense why they were there until now," says Brown. "The Society's Writing Department evidently used UN press releases for Awake! articles and then they could submit these to show they were informing their members of UN activities and keep their NGO membership."
Ex-members and many current members feel this was hypocrisy of the highest caliber. Witness theology has understood the United Nations as "the disgusting thing that causes desolation" (from Matthew's gospel) and as "the image of the wild beast" from Revelation chapter 13. Witnesses believe that all other religions have prostituted themselves to the UN (their interpretation of "Babylon the Great" riding the "scarlet colored wild beast" in Revelation chapter 17) and that soon the UN will turn on "false religion" (all other religions) and destroy them. Improbable as that scenario is the Witnesses believe that because of their "strict neutrality in political affairs" they will not be affected when the UN acts to destroy "false religion" (this being the immediate predecessor of Armageddon).
"Most Witnesses have no idea that for the past 10 years the Watch Tower Society was certified as an affiliate organization of the UN along with Catholics, Orthodox, Protestants and other religious bodies promoting its agenda just as the other religions promote theirs," says Brown. "Actually, I think this was a positive development in the history of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unfortunately, it was hypocritical to do so while demonizing the UN in their doctrinal publications. Sadder still, the Watch Tower organization continues to maintain a policy that effectively excommunicates members who get involved in any political activity."
The first official reply from a Watch Tower official was made by Paul Gillies of the Witnesses' branch office in Britian on October 22nd: membership as a NGO was simply a result of "getting a library card" at the UN facilities in New York. Gillies did not explain the annual re-certification process for NGO members which the Watch Tower Society participated in. Nor did he comment on the numerous articles in Awake! which promoted the UN.
"This was not a one-time application the Watch Tower Society made where they didn't realize what they were doing," says Brown. "This was a relationship renewed yearly resulting in their news magazine doing PR for the UN. This relationship resulted in favorable UN support for the Witnesses' human rights struggles."..END.
