Apostates - blood on their hands? (page 5)

daystar

Somehow I think you apostates will never see sense.

OMG! Stop, please stop. You are killing me...

Ow... my sides hurt now.

Iggy your crude analogy is both quite fun and quite accurate. Keep up the good works. LOL

Using Slimboyfatturd's analogy:

Those damnedable "colored" folks should have just sat at the back of the bus.....civil rights were already coming slowly but surely.

Those Chinese farmers and Russian peasants should have just toed the line awhile longer instead of having revolutions! Starvation yes....but both govt. were "mellowing" to western influences and would have provided "food at the appropriate" time in just a few dozen years!

If that PESKY Gallielio hadn't gone and published his works first the Roman Catlick Church wouldn't have had to hold to it's world is flat theory for an additional 300 years! How dare he correct inconsistencies in the world as we know it.

diamondblue1974

And Franz is a "rabid" apostate eh? He publishes TWO books in what? 25 years? What has the WTBS spewed forth in that time? 50 books? 70 books?

Agreed EF

And there was nothing Rabid in any of his books in either of their editions, they were well informed, considered and considerably objective given how badly treated...I wouldve been Rabid but I dont think thats a label we can put on Franz somehow.

DB74

MidwichCuckoo

Does that mean you're ''Annointed''?
Not yet.

Think about it - that's somewhat scary. You ASSUME God will 'choose' you? lol - and if HE doesn't? Maybe he doesn't approve of you chatting to disfellowshipped persons (as you must do on here) over Spiritual matters?

....and I don't suppose 1935 is worth mentioning...

stevenyc

That is a great example that proves my point!
The leaders of the organisation were becoming more mellow, cooperating with worldly agencies for the first time. They did not want to upset their membership, so they did this slowly and under the radar.

Then came along the screaming apostates with The Guardian in tow, and then the organisation went into retreat, back into their shells, more authoritarian, more hardline,cover ups and all this carry on. If only the apostates had allowed the organisation to mellow naturally they would have stated their new open stance to the world in time. But apostates had to come along, announce it to the world, and spoil all that!

Utter crap!!! They would still be fooling the r/f is this wasn't brought up. If you really believe what your writing, then I'm sorry to say, your a complete idiot.

steve

kid-A

Slim,

I think I am just confused by the objective here. For example, if you were to redesign the organization and make some changes to the underlying policies and/or theological

doctrines, what would those changes be? I am curious as to whether you have issues with the social policies of the witnesses or with the underlying theological doctrines?

Personally, there are no changes that could be made that would change my positions but I am very interested in your position about potential "reform" in the WTS.

Cheers

hillary_step

Slimfatboy,

Perhaps it is not 'apostates' that wreak changes in GB doctrine and attitudes so much as the natural process of social and theological evolution.

The WTS will do all it needs to to survive the theological challenges of a C21st. If that means changing doctrine, that is what they will do. For example, the 'geneo' doctrine, which Carl Jonsson dealt with at length in the early 80's was not changed until the late 90's. This was due to the fact that time had run its course and the doctrine was no longer viable. The change had nothing to do with apostates, but all to do with an enforced mainstreaming by natural processes.

Best regards - HS

minimus

If it weren't for us "apostates", the UN debacle would've never been known. Because of us, the WT. has been flawlessly exposed (EVERY DAY).

slimboyfat

Personally I think the organisation has become too tolerant of dissention. But I am playing devil's advocate here. The point I am trying to make is that all the campaigning that apostates have embarked upon in the last quarter century has had the opposite effect from that they might have wished.

There is clearly a difference between what I would like the organisation to do as a follower, and as a leader. This is always the way of things.

mrsjones5

too tolerant?

Oh let the lynching begin baby

Apostates - blood on their hands?