purr purr Who is the author of the book you are reading
Terri, where is the other account of Noah to be found in the bible
Thanks in advance
i'm reading a very interesting book right now "your god is too small" by the atheist republic.
it makes the point that there are two creation accounts in the bible!.
in one humans are created after the animals in the second humans are created before the animals.
purr purr Who is the author of the book you are reading
Terri, where is the other account of Noah to be found in the bible
Thanks in advance
i'm reading a very interesting book right now "your god is too small" by the atheist republic.
it makes the point that there are two creation accounts in the bible!.
in one humans are created after the animals in the second humans are created before the animals.
Yes, I have noticed this and have asked about it before. No witness or any other religion ever saw a problem with what I saw as two creations of humankind. I asked a few elders and my study conductors. They said that the first account is just a generalised over view.
I said it didn't look like that to me. I really looks as though Adam and Eve were another matter, quite a separate matter from the first creation account. These two were to be in a sort of paradise. The rest was outside getting on with .........what ever process was happening.
That is why I found it interesting that God mentions things like weeds and such as things that are outside of this other perfect place. The bible really states that men and women were created before Adam. No one has ever been interested in this point until now.
It would make sense of so much as far as I'm concerned. Our evolution for example, the evolution of creatures and all else that was coming into existence. If only someone could engage on this topic without becoming either angry or trying to talk way over my head,...it would be of great interest to me.......perhaps you too
I also see this two creations thing as a threat to those who would like to keep mankind tied to religions. They (other religions) may feel very threatened by the conclusions we could reach about our descendants, our earth's continued changes, maybe it could cast doubt about the extent of the flood account. Especially if it is seen from the perspective of Adam and Eve being the only couple that are mentioned as important enough to merit God's attention. All the rest of mankind were left out of this particular....pact, or so to speak. It would make sense of so much that I cannot come to terms with in the Christian bible.
i just wrote them a mail, telling them to not contact me any more under any circumstances, illness or death (79 and 83 years old).
unless they leave the cult and would apologize for our f*'.ed-up upbringing which ruined our whole life.
Were you a witness? Or have you been disfellowshipped? If they were still talking with you inspite of what the org says.......regarding shunning those on the outside. Then it may be harsh. Then again. Like the others here, I don't know what has happened in your life.
i decided to go to the bethel recruiting meeting yesterday to test out my theory that the organization is in decline.
i assumed that if there is a general feeling of apathy by many in the org, then certainly it would be shown up by the lack of enthusiasm or zeal by many to sign up for bethel service.
well let me say that based on what i observed, this organization is not going anywhere.
Was it one of those congregations where they have mixed two together? In my congregation there was a mix of two congregations as the two separate ones were pretty small, but as a combined congregation, it was larger.
Put that badly..sorry.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/581439/rise-isis-earthquakes-warnings-before-armageddon-apocalypse-end-destroys-volcanoes-earth.
the "end" of mankind, which has been long predicted by jehovah's witnesses, could happen as soon as this year - according to latest announcement from the christian religion.. in the latest edition of jehovah's witnesses monthly publication watchtower, an article translated into 700 languages - urges people to join the religion or face certain death when god sends his forces from the heavens to "remove all world leaders," "exterminate his enemies" and "rid the world of satan".. critics have lambasted the warning of a coming armageddon as yet another "failed prediction" by the religion, which has previously delivered similar alerts such as a foretold apocalypse in 1975.. indeed, jehovah's witnesses have been warning people of the need to recognise jehovah or face certain death when the "end" comes for more than 100 years.. the christian-based religion was founded in the 1870s by charles taze russell in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, us, as an offshoot from the bible studies movement.. today, there are 8.2million jehovah's witness evangelists, while 19.9 million celebrated their annual memorial festival marking christ's death - worldwide in 2014.. followers do not believe in military service and will not accept blood transfusions.. in a new eight-page article, watchtower said jehovah's witness leaders are now "convinced" humans are in their "final days" before the armageddon.. they cite an increase in global armed conflict, such as the rise of the islamic state terror group, as well as natural disasters such as volcanoes and earthquakes.. the lengthy article, written by an unnamed author, said: "will god let humans continue to dominate one another and threaten the future of mankind?
no, as we have seen, he will step in and bring an end to centuries of misery and oppression.
revelations seem to be the only book out of the supposed 66 books in the bible that has a specific warning about taking or adding one word to " this prophecy".
i am curious as to what others make of this.
i have looked at a few bibles, the last chapter and verses 18-19, state this warning.
It seems obvious that an author of say.......Revelations, would be warning against any change made to this book in order to protect it's contents. This book of prophecy is very different in language to just about any other book in the bible.
So I believe it would be to maintain the integrity of this prophecy.
What do you think fulltimestudent? I do realize that questions can be used as a form of teaching.........but at this stage I am interested in opinions
revelations seem to be the only book out of the supposed 66 books in the bible that has a specific warning about taking or adding one word to " this prophecy".
i am curious as to what others make of this.
i have looked at a few bibles, the last chapter and verses 18-19, state this warning.
Revelations seem to be the only book out of the supposed 66 books in the bible that has a specific warning about taking or adding one word to " this prophecy".
I am curious as to what others make of this. I have looked at a few bibles, the last chapter and verses 18-19, state this warning. I used to be taught that this warning applied to the whole of the bible. However, it does not sound like it applies to all the bible books. It is quite specifically about this "Revelation" " this prophecy" and so on. It would explain why there are so many interpretations of the bible and so many variations. You may not even believe in the bible, but it would be interesting to hear your' thoughts on this subject.
This observation, if it is correct, is worth considering in the context of how many religions seem to feel they and only they, have the best bible. The JW believers are very fixed upon the idea that their bible is the best, the only trustworthy bible.
If this is so, that there is only a dire warning concerning Revelations, I would then understand how the other 65 books have been altered in wording and other books were just left out.
please tell me what do you understand from this quote that is taken from w july 2015, the article your deliverance is close paragraph 5.. i understand that not all members of other religions will be destroyed at armageddon.
i talked to a jw.
he says he understands differently: they will not be destroyed when the babylon the great will be destroyed but they will be destroyed in armageddon.
That's strange. I was informed by the "very in" JWs that the preaching work would start to close off soon. That the message was going to be more of a warning about not being accepted into the religion. It seems they keep changing all the time. Either that,or the explanations given by the GB are not clear.
its just a thought i had,why do we debate over what the wt publications say today when we know all to well that in a year or two they will say something different.. and put it down to new light .. everything charles taze russell said by word of mouth and in print , the so called , first president of the international bible students association (william h. conley was actually the first president ), later to be named the watchtower bible and tract society in his lifetime is discarded .. something like 40 years preaching and teaching throughout the earth , being the chief cornerstone of the foundation of the jehovah`s witness religion / i.b.s.a... nothing he said or preached or wrote about is accepted today by the jehovah`s witness religion as being relevant.. do they say he was wrong ?
no... do they say he was a false prophet ?
no ,... then what do they say about c.t.russell , well they do cherry pick some comments and take them out of context ,like he foretold 40 years beforehand about world war one.
I like to have the freedom to debate them. This is one of the most important freedoms we get once we realize they are just people. Nothing more.
The witnesses who are in, don't have this basic liberty do they?
the english woman who has been awarded 275,000 compensation for being abused by the ministerial servant paedophile, will now have to wait while the org fights to keep hold of its precious money, by appealing the court's decision.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33201010.
How different is there legal fight these days!
They used to brag about the human rights they fought for, the right to preach wherever they wished. Now they fight to keep a lid on their "wicked" behaviour and scandals. They would brag about this fight too if only they could squash all the cases against them for sexual abuse in the ranks and the internal policies they use to hide it.