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  Never a JW, what makes you post here?

  by Mrs Smith in

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  in some of the post i read, people say that they have never been a jw.

  what makes them post on this forum?

  my only guess would be because they have family or friends that are.. .

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  Dad and two older brothers in for over 35 years. Unusually in our house Mom is the one who didn't join and she wouldn't let Dad take me to the meetings.
  
  Dad had bible studies with me as a kid but when I reached my teens I told him I was not interested and didn't want to hear about it. He respected my decision and knows I wont listen to any 'preaching'. For years I thought they were just a bunch of harmless if somewhat misguided people until 6 years ago I finally admitted to myself and my family that I had been abused by a witness as a child. It was only after I saw the way it was covered up by the CO,DO and body of elders that I started searching the net to see if mine was an isolated case. What a revelation!!! The stories I found and the doctrinal issues I discovered shocked me to the core. My Dad is one of the most intelligent people I know and I still can't beleive he fell for this crock of s**t.
  
  I try to drop the odd question into the conversation to make him think, but to be honest I know I can't argue against his years of indoctrinated arguments so I've come to the conclusion that at 70 years old it would be more cruel to try and lure him out now, especially as he would face shunning by my brothers and their families. Whereas at the moment he gets to have a relationship with all of his kids and grandkids.
  
  Although I do beleive that all of my life it is me and Mom that have had to make allowances for his beliefs from simple things such as having to hide christmas cards and harvest festival contributions as a kid to not having my Dad give me away when I got married.
  
  Anyway I still love him (even though I've written my brothers off as a lost cause)but I know that I could not go into a kingdom hall knowing what I do so I hope he chooses a non religeous funeral for when the dreaded time comes.
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  Honey Bees..Is it just media hype??

  by Lady Liberty in

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  good morning everyone!!.

  happy sunday!!

  yesterday we went to our local farmers market and came across a vender that had a whole honey bees display.

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  Hi all, my hubby is a bee keeper and I've asked him if colony collapse disease (CCD)is a real problem. From his research it is quite widespread. It is estimated to have affected up to 90% of colonies across 24 US states and has the potential to affect around 50% of hives in Spain, where they have identified a the microsporidan Nosema ceranea (a parasite of asian origin) as the cause.
  
  However, CCD has occured in the past as a result of the varroa mites, which are present in most colonies. It has been suggested that mites are becoming resistant to treatment and may be reacting with other bee viruses to cause problems within the hives. BTW, he also says that wild colonies are also affected.
  
  But the good news is that there are plenty of other insects that pollinate crops so the idea that we will all starve is a fallacy.
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  Why the hell did they leave their kid on her own in that apartment?

  by needproof in

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  well, a big story here in the uk is that of missing three year old girl madeleine mccann, who was abducted from a hotel room in portugal whilst on holiday.

  i don't know if international posters know much about this story but the news is massive here and top businessmen, sports stars and celebs have put up over 2 million as a reward for her safe return.

  this is the map of where she went missing: .

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  I agree with the point about how sympathetic the media have been because the parents are middle class professionals. The argument has been put forward that it was a family friendly resort - well where do peados usually hang out? It's a bit of a no brainer really. Also if this had been a working class family who'd left their kids in a caravan (trailer) park to go down the pub the other kids would have been taken into care by now.
  
  I also agree that of course no one could have anticipated that Maddy would be stolen but for goodness sakes the chances of a 3 year old and 2 year old twins waking up because they've wet the bed or are thirsty are pretty high.
  
  A very hard lesson to learn indeed.
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  Been "worldly" for 4 months now

  by themonster123 in

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  well, i left around january or february, and it's been about 3 months or so experiencing "worldly" living.

  i gotta say...it's been an interesting and uncomfortable transition, to say the least.

  i would just like to update everyone on how i'm doing, and share some of my worldly experiences, as well.

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  neverin

  Hi there
  
  As my name suggests I have never been 'in' myself but my dad and brothers are. I can assure you that most 'wordly' people are good and kind, it seems that you have just struck unlucky with the guys you've met.
  
  I do wonder if being brought up so isolated robs witnesses of the ability to judge people before getting involved with them. I'm guessing that until recently you have only mixed with other JWs with the assumption that they are all 'clean living' people.
  
  I can also assure that this is a crock of poop. My experiences of JWs are that whilst there are some gueniune folk around many have no qualms about claiming state benefits from the govt so they can knock dooors all day. I have personal expereince of those who will gladly help a fellow JW to move house or clean so they can be 'seen' to be doing, whilst at the same time turning their back on blood family because there is no kudos attached.
  
  If you look back at my other posts (not many, but I lurk around a lot)you will see what those 'loving' brothers and sisters have done to my family. Meanwhile I have a loving 'worldy' husband and kids and a good group of friends who I know I can rely on, unconditionally.
  
  Just tread carefully and learn to judge who to trust - but please don't tar all non JWs with the same brush - this is real life.
  
  All the best - Neverin
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  What % of JW's think they will make it to the New System without dying?

  by JH in

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  when i joined some 20 years ago, i was 99% sure i'd make it alive and see the new system without dying, because they way they put it, the end was so close, and i was so young.. today, if i was still going to meetings, i would say that i would be 20% sure of seeing the new sytem without dying first.. if you were still a jw, or if you still are going to meetings, what % would you say is your odds of making it to the new system without dying?.

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  My Dad is an active JW - approaching 70 with nearly 40 years service - and he told me a few days ago that he doesn't think he will live to see armageddon but that he still has the resurrection hope. He also said that if there is no resurrection he wont know anything about it anyway. Quite sad I thought, that he has spent so much time looking forward to an event that he now accepts he wont actually see. I also think that it's his way of coping with the reality that it wont happen at all.
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  A few questions for the Brits

  by sir82 in

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  i saw the movie "the queen" a few days ago, and was wondering how accurate the portrayals were of some of the things in the movie, such as:.

  -- in at least one scene, tony blair is shown in the back seat of a car being driven down a highway, with his secretary at his side.

  it appears that there is normal, regular traffic going down the road along with him.

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  neverin

  Quick answer:
  
  yes
  don't know
  yes
  
  1.Roads aren't closed off for dignitaries - when the Queen visited my home town a couple of years ago her car drove past me as I was waiting to pull out of a junction. There were a number of police motorcyclists and a car in front and behind but that's all.
  
  2. To be honest I wouldn't imagine anyone other than those who live/work in number 10 know what goes on. We don't have many peeks inside, for some reason (no offence intended) we brits don't seen to need to make a big show of high office - When the PM gives a press conference its ususally from outside Number 10 the cameras don't go in like they do at the White House.
  
  3. The discussion between the Prime Minister and the Queen is a serious matter - no need for the press hounds to be there.
  
  It seems that the USA govt like everything to be a big razzle dazzle show whereas in the UK we just get on with it.
  
  Cheers
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  Worst flatulence experience? Here is mine... Can you top it?

  by What-A-Coincidence in

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  i had been having bad gas for a few days...when i mean bad, i mean clear the room bad and call in hazmat, it was so bad my dog left the room crying.. anyway, i was at the mall and i had to let one go and a man passed by and he said, "dam, they must be repairing the sewage pipes.

  " i said, yeah, huh.

  i was having a bad day but i just had to laugh.

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  We were having a 'farting' conversation at work the other day and one of my collegues told me of the time she was at a crowded bus stop and couldn't hold one in, so she let it go - SBD style - and there was no smell so she thought she'd got away with it, then when she got on the bus she sat down and pfffttt!! it wafted out of her coat and stunk to high heaven - everyone around gave her the most disgusted looks!!
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  Doctor who?

  by IP_SEC in

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  anyone else looking forward to this besides me?.

  i sure hope arrmmaaggeeddoonn doesnt come before this comes out.

  http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/scifi.shtml

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  Hi Leolaia, the third series did indeed start last night (Uk time) and did not disappoint. No spoilers here, but Martha did indeed hold her own and was in no way set up as a replacement for Rose. The Dr obviously 'loved' Rose in his own way but it seems that this relationship with Martha is on a more intellectual level. I was worried at first that they would skirt over the fact that Freema Agyeman had been in the show before, but they explained it away quite believably. Really looking forward to the rest of the series and the return of Torchwood, which itself is an excellent show.
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  Did anyone see this story?

  by zagor in

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  http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1712803.html?menu=news.quirkies.

  headteacher bans hot cross buns.

  a school in suffolk has banned hot cross buns - in case they offend pupils from religious minorities.

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  This story is from last year and I asked my elder dad what he thought at the time. He said that it was not up to JWs to tell others not to eat hot x buns but that a JW would not eat one. I blame the head teacher for giving in to one pushy parent, what next ban Christmas because it might offend one or two zealots? For goodness sakes, why are some people afraid of 'offending' a minority?
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  Things YOU eat, that other people think is weird.

  by misanthropic in

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  this mornings events have got me thinking about things.

  i love peanut butter, not the sweet kind but i like the old fashioned peanut butter, usually laura scudder's with no sugar or preservatives - it just tastes better imo.

  i put it on everything including pancakes which are really good with peanut butter and maple syrup.

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  Peanut butter, cheese and jam (jelly) sandwich anyone? Hubby will eat cold curry on toast for breakfast (puke!!)