Why only 1970 on?? Because of all the BatS##t CRAZY pre-1970 stuff !!!!!!!
Although as pointed out in the Zone visit talks, even this week's material can be Batsh#t CRAZY.
yet watchtowers go way back to 1950's....i picked up three awake volumes 1967-1969 i was struck by the poor science {aluminium is posion}, demon articles and anti-organ transplant articles.
also much was said about 1975 being the end of the system and "the generation.
" it feels like fred franz was writting alot of these which now is plain embarrasing and better left un-published.. .
Why only 1970 on?? Because of all the BatS##t CRAZY pre-1970 stuff !!!!!!!
Although as pointed out in the Zone visit talks, even this week's material can be Batsh#t CRAZY.
as the title says: how long does it take to be inactive in fs before some elders comes knocking on the door?
or calling or whatever... any experiences?
how was it for you guys?
I think it just depends on your local elders.
Looking back I realize I was one of the hounders. I was a Cool-aid drinking, over earnest Elder who pestered everyone for their time and would coach people to turn in even one hour. I also visited inactive JWs in the territory every couple of months, to be honest I just felt people were burned out or discouraged would would leave the book bag and tie in the car. I never once even thought someone was a festering apostate, nor did I admonish someone who had "Questions".
Officially you are Inactive after 6 months(unless someone turned in 15 minutes for you), but some C.O.s will make sure you are called and visited during their visit for a year or two...unless the elders can tell him you moved.
ok, so, brother morris seems to have gone out on a limb with his comments about tight pants.
yup, he's an opinionated man.
but, i fully expect that there will be some reference to the scientific wisdom behind his words.
Tony should be wearing Kilts then.
it seems like every couple of months i notice we've acquired a new religious nut and they have been posting away, annoying everyone and filling the forum with crap.
it's disheartening to see people (even moderators!
) have been having conversations with them and there are pages and pages of insults and crap - we're going to try and avoid this in future.
Oh come on Simon, Hot pants Tony can't post?
it has been a few months since i hear this from an elder.
he said that the c/o told them this new requirement.. "men that wanna be an elder or ministerial servant has to go out to field service on sundays.
if there is an elder or ministerial servant that is not going out to field service on sunday can lose the priviledge".
WOW!! I have heard "Taking a VISIBLE lead in field service" in the past. Never Sunday.
One Elder said I was "missing meetings" years ago "by working on Saturdays"and he repeated that to the C.O. I took him in the back room quickly with 2 other Elders, and asked him to "show me that in writing". He couldn't so I accused him of "running ahead, slander, and apostacy" in front of two Elders...they busted up laughing, he turned red, stuttered and apologised. lol- the guy hated me after that-
a friend of mine is getting disfellowshipped.
someone with a kind heart, and good rep. he knows how i feel, remains my firend, and we have respectful conversation.
without revealing too much, lets just say the reason he is being disfellowshipped is for family problems.
Yes disfellowshipping is character assassination. So is "Private" reproof and "marking"- nothing private about these. In fact if a servant/elder/pioneer simply steps aside or is removed some Elders will use this as opportunity to even a "score" and create a "cloud" on that JWs reputation.
it seems to me that you must be almost perfect to be a " servant" in the organization today.
no college, no spiritually weak in the family, no disfellowshipped living at home, no tight pants, etc......who can live up to their lofty ideals?.
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I bet being a "basic pioneer" will be the new requirement.
tass news:.
russias supreme court rules jehovah's witnesses from samara extremist organizationrussia.
november 13, 20:58 utc+3 .
Compare how JW.org home page portrayed these events THIS WEEK- VS -the Newspaper story & what happened. I posted with Keywords and hot link. Hope some active JWs stumble on this thread today during coffee.
Hope it plants a seed or two and rings some mental bells.
do they have to tell the r&f every little detail???.
from the new wt:.
what can be done to assist brothers and sisters who suffer from adverse reactions to fragrances?any who are sensitive to fragrances face a difficult challenge.
Allergies are common. For me it's long haired Cats and a couple of Perfumes. No big deal, if my throat swells up, I move or go for a walk outside. Why make a big deal about it or even say anything?
We had a couple of kooky sisters who made a BIG deal about it in a couple of halls we were in. Insulting people, stomping around, wearing masks, refusing to sit in the back room with the air cleaner we bought for them. Insisting EVERYONE buy special no-scent hygene products. Yet... I would run into them in smelly paint and cleaning departments at the local Home Depot and they cleaned homes for a living. Selective allergies I guess.
In the old days I never heard of so many of these problems.....untill Watchtower created the regional building commitee $$$ and INSISTED we remodel by covering up the Kingdom Hall Windows, installing their new GLUE down carpet, their new seats, and their new garish vinyal wall covering, and cheap commercial lights. Suddenly everyone stated feeling nauseous during boring meetings for months as the high mark-up RBC materials off-gassed manufacturing solvents.
tass news:.
russias supreme court rules jehovah's witnesses from samara extremist organizationrussia.
november 13, 20:58 utc+3 .
Reminds me a bit of the situation related in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_Conscience , were Ray explains how the Jehovah's witnesses in Malawi suffered beatings and rapes while the JWs in Mexico conceded to the governments wishes without a bit of persecution and the Governing Body never missed a meal. Anthony Morris will continue to rant while others suffer.