lol. After 100+ years of "knowing," they admit they are clueless?
Blind guides and false prophets.
Balaamsass2
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WT June 2025: We Are Not Blind We Just Don't Know
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/7xumqjq3zfc?si=ivcg96t4dtgze4ft.
so this is from the brand new watchtower study edition of june 2025 which has just been posted on jw.org .under the title: modestly accept what you do not know, a let’s read paragraphs in question 4 &5: “read matthew 24:36. we do not know when the end of this system of things will come.
even jesus, while on earth, did not know the ‘day and hour.’ he later told the apostles that jehovah, who is the great timekeeper, keeps the timing of certain events ‘in his own jurisdiction,’ or authority.
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bomb for jehova italy
by andr initaly meets another bomb in front of the kingdom hall, after having caused a scandal on tv, now it is also dangerous to go to the hall.
here is the image of the press release.
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Balaamsass2
What was the scandal?
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3 Changes The Watchtower Made on Babylon The Great in the Last 6 Months
by raymond frantz inhttps://youtu.be/vpws6ncqpla?si=dqnf7-hupfr4pdta.
for decades, jehovah’s witnesses have been banging on about babylon the great—the so-called world empire of false religion—being on the brink of collapse.
any day now, they assured us, churches would empty out, priests would be left twiddling their thumbs, and humanity would collectively bin organised religion.
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Balaamsass2
Going by Watchtower's two witness rule....how do we know this was an actual prophecy? An old man has a strange dream while incarcerated on an island with hallucinogenic plants. What makes his dream inspired? Says who?
I had a wild dream last week. Was it a prophecy? :)
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Is jehovahs-witness.com legitimately and reliably independent of WTB&TS and peripheral, aligned entities?
by great-trivialization ini am new to this forum and uncertain that this is legitimately and entirely independent of conniving jw controllers or the wtb&ts and its related entities.
markers like the use of jw.org in the forum description and the policies seem controlled/controlling vs other xjw forums.
this is not an accusation, it is an attempt to know enough to be comfortable with motives of the ownership and controllers of the forum.
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Balaamsass2
Again, this site is independent of Watchtower.
Based on a conversation with a relative who was a member of the Bethel legal dept., multiple Bethelies were assigned to monitor this type of site. (I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance this would cause.) :) lol -imagine the turnover!
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Why is there nothing known about the Jehovah’s Witness brother WOLFGANG OTT which raped 6 women in Austria and killed 4 of them?
by Sektenkult inthe wikipedia has not even his date of birth, photos unavailable.
only the places where he rapped and murdert are known nothing else.
normally when somebody like him kills and murders everything gets public, which school was he, what was kn his mind and so on and so on.
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Balaamsass2
There is a wiki about him. Most information is in German. No newspaper info.
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New World, New World Order, New System of Things
by blondie inthe wts has used to above terms, over the years, some more preferred in certain time periods.
more though, but these occurred to me first.
also the terms "new world" and "new world order" have been used by some us presidents and other leaders..
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Balaamsass2
Yes, I remember endless vocabulary changes from the early 60s on.
As a kid, Mom said it was to confuse "outsiders, government agents and apostates" during the coming tribulation.
In the 70s, Ray Franz told me some issues occurred during translation into third-world languages causing unwelcome persecution.
I have heard all kinds of explanations and changes in the last 70 years.
Perhaps it is simply tribal jargon, a way for group members to feel special and more like insiders. Tradesmen have done this over the centuries.
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What is the current Watchtower "rent charge per publisher" for Kingdom Halls in the USA???
by Balaamsass2 ini was following a few threads in reddit from current pimo jws complaining about local announcements regarding halls being short on their per publisher "rent payments".
third gen and i have been out pomo for a while...so how much is this charge now?
could this be part of the recent push to get people to "come back" or get re-instated...if it even is online and 15 minutes of service per month?
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Balaamsass2
When I was 12 I asked mom; "If God sees everything and the future, and tells Bethel about it...why do they ask for money?" "Wouldn't they know where to dig for gold, or what stocks to buy?" Mom boxed my ears for that. I should have gone with my gut right then.
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New investigation of Watchtower in Europe
by Balaamsass2 inczech culture ministry considers deregistration of jehovah’s witnesses.
the czech ministry of culture is considering the possible cancellation of the religious registration of the jehovah’s witnesses religious society, and has sent the organisation an appeal to desist from its illegal activities, ministry spokeswoman jana zechmeisterova told ctk today.. the ministry has received thousands of complaints from the jehovah’s witnesses about the proposal, which must be dealt with first.
administrative proceedings have not yet been initiated, zechmeisterova said.. she said the ministry had begun to deal with the proposals it had received about the cancellation of the registration of the religious society of jehovah’s witnesses (nssj).
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Czech Culture Ministry Considers Deregistration of Jehovah’s Witnesses
The Czech Ministry of Culture is considering the possible cancellation of the religious registration of the Jehovah’s Witnesses Religious Society, and has sent the organisation an appeal to desist from its illegal activities, ministry spokeswoman Jana Zechmeisterova told CTK today.
The ministry has received thousands of complaints from the Jehovah’s Witnesses about the proposal, which must be dealt with first. Administrative proceedings have not yet been initiated, Zechmeisterova said.
She said the ministry had begun to deal with the proposals it had received about the cancellation of the registration of the Religious Society of Jehovah’s Witnesses (NSSJ). They were mainly about damaging the social ties of society members and their families and preventing minors from receiving medical care appropriate to their health needs, according to reports from novinky.cz and iROZHLAS.cz.
The Culture Ministry, led by Martin Baxa (ODS), accuses the NSSJ of five offences, which they were supposed to address within three months. Both parties involved confirmed to iROZHLAS.cz that they had not been corrected.
“The ministry is looking into the issue, but no administrative proceedings are currently underway,” Zechmeisterova told CTK. “The ministry will decide on whether to initiate administrative proceedings after it studies the content of several thousand complaints from NSSJ members that we have received in recent weeks.”
The complaints against Jehovah’s Witnesses relate to alleged damage to people’s social ties and families. When members leave the religious society, other Witnesses have to severely limit, and often completely cease, social contact with them. The Ministry also stated that it respects the right to religious freedom and values the contribution of fellow believers to society.
“There is no legal or doctrinal reason for the cancellation of the registration of Jehovah’s Witnesses,” iROZHLAS.cz quoted David Kula, director of the NSSJ’s public relations department, as saying. “Such a move would be discriminatory, illegal and for thousands of peaceful citizens of the Czech Republic would mean a gross interference in their religious life.”
See alsoThere are 13,298 NSSJ members in the Czech Republic, according to the latest census data, but the society itself claims 30,000 witnesses and sympathisers.
Jehovah’s Witnesses began operating in the territory of the present-day Czech Republic in 1912, and were registered in 1934. Two associations, the International Association of Bible Scholars and the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, were active in Czechoslovakia at the time. They were persecuted during World War Two before resuming their activities after the war, but were forced underground again after the 1948 Communist coup.
They reapplied for registration after the collapse of the regime in January 1990, and registered as the 20th official church in the country in September 1993. https://brnodaily.com/2025/02/05/news/czech-culture-ministry-considers-deregistration-of-jehovahs-witnesses/
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What the new JW light position really is 👍
by ElderBerry ini’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.
as my fellow elders are.
we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.
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Balaamsass2
Lutheran lite, episcopalian lite, Presbyterian lite....I can see. But JW lite?
Sounds like cult-lite, mobster lite, child rapist lite, warren jeffs lite, branch davidian lite to me. A bridge too far for us.
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I think I may be becoming an X-X-JW
by joe134cd ini think i may be moving on shortly.
i officially joined this web-site 12 years ago as pimo about to exit the organisation.
i had spent about a year before that, as just a none commenting member.
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Balaamsass2
Third Gen and I are seniors now. We would love to be ex-ex JWs, but not a day goes by without a reminder of the damage Watchtower did long term to our parents, our extended family, our kids, and us personally. Emotionally, educationally, and financially.
Every missed funeral, missed family reunion, grocery store shunning, and Saturday knock on the door is an unwelcome reminder we were in a cult for 65 + years. It is not an everyday reminder, but it comes up more frequently than we wish.
We hope we can be object lessons to young JWs so they don't repeat our gullible example.
