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  Why JWs would commit murder if ordered to by the GB

  by kneehighmiah in

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  psychology class is teaching me so much.

  it's a core class, as i want to study medicine or biochemistry eventually.

  we were assigned to read about obedience.

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  “designs”: “Turning to murder is a stretch.”

  True, it would be a stretch for the GB to go against the “superior authorities” and sanction JWs to murder their “enemies” (“apostates”) at this time. However, the OP was hypothesizing what JWs WOULD do IF ordered to by the GB.

  Considering some of the earlier WT quotes, it would seem that the GB would be titillated and pretty much salivating at the idea of being able to carry out their own fundamentalist capital punishment IF they were to somehow be allowed to – either because of a change to a new set of “superior authorities” or because of the same ones operating under a vastly different set of new and emerging policies due to some extremely disastrous upset in society, such as a nuclear war or natural disaster (asteroid impact, major volcanic ground eruption in Yellowstone National Park, mega-tsunami from sudden landslide on La Palma Island, electromagnetic solar corona discharge, super zombie-like viral outbreak, major earthquake from Rosie O’Donnell falling off her chair, etc.).

  And, of course, if the WT’s whole Armageddon and new system thing was actually true and the whole world was to be ruled over by the WTS, then I would imagine it would be a real stretch for them not to use murder against anyone not playing by the rules. Those 250,000 or so people every year, not to mention the 50,000 or more between the years 1961 and 2012, who have suffered premature death as a direct result of WTS’ blood policy would be just but a taste of what it would be like in that scenario!
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  Is This Current Governing Body As Bad As Previous Ones!

  by minimus in

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  or are they all the same?

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  “Julia Orwell”: “Authoritarian regimes traditionally go one of two ways: they become more liberal and go more mainstream...or they become more radical like Hitler and North Korea.”

  Indeed. And modern religious groups either go the way of progressive, liberal Protestant-type denominations, such as the United Church, or they turn into the outlandish and rather bizarre cults, such as the Scientologists, Moonies, Branch Davidians, etc.

  For the Watchtower religion, . . . . well, let’s just say that I’m waiting for a big showdown with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives versus the new Warwick compound. With all the children and babies continuing to die because of the WTS’ ridiculous blood sh^t, not to mention the many victims of depression and suicide because of being shunned by their families, in obedience to this “loving” provision from the WTS, I think something has got to come to a head one way or another.
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  NEW BOE LETTER - It just got exponentially harder to "fade"

  by sir82 in

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  here is the text of the letter:.

  february 2, 2014. .

  your brothers,.

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  The WTS just wants to take inventory of who they think they can salvage and discard the rest. That’s really all it’s about. Taking inventory.
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-02-2014 WT Study (GREAT SHEPHERDS)

  by blondie in

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  http://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.

  http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.

  http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.

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  SAHS

  Great job, Blondie! I like this format you used; it clearly differentiates the questions and paragraphs of the study article under consideration from the quotes and comments that have been added.

  I commented on paragraph four of this Watchtower study about how Christian shepherds should treat the sheep. I said that the elders should not be lording it over the sheep, and not be harsh or demanding or coerce people into following the directives and policies of man [i.e., the GB] because we are all God’s children. (Of course, any such little thoughts I embed in my comments will never really reach the conscious, logical processing part of the brains of the vast majority of those in attendance.)
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  Question from an outsider regarding beliefs and views on women

  by DarkRose123 in

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  i am a not a jehovah witness but i have just gotten out of a relationship with a devout one.

  i mean no offense to this post but am simply curious and would like some help in understanding.. my ex claimed to be a devout jehovah witness.

  he studied the bible for 10 years.

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  SAHS

  To “DarkRose123”: Firstly, welcome to the Board! As you can see, there is much information on here which illuminates and explains the general problem of arbitrary sexism imposed by the Watchtower leadership. Although, your specific experience is quite relatively unique in that it involves a most serious form of mental illness. Nevertheless, as “sir82” pointed out above, the Jehovah’s Witness religion certainly does exacerbate the problem of male chauvinism based on a draconian interpretation of a twitty Pharisee’s fundamentalist views on Christianity (that Apostle Paul guy).

  Secondly, given the serious and dangerous situation of having just left a relationship with someone who is a violent and abusive schizophrenic AND a devout Jehovah’s Witness, I would say don’t hesitate to seek a restraining order on this person if you feel in any way that your personal safety is threatened. Better safe than sorry with someone like that. (Schizophrenics aren’t exactly known for having the best judgment.)

  I wish you all the best in being able to move on to something better. (Pretty much anything else would have to be better than that.)
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  Why a Faithful and discreet slave???

  by Crazyguy in

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  the bible speaks of it making a man fully equipt 2tim, and that the anointing teaches one 1john, holy spirit is also available luke, john and even god will grant wisdom if one asks james.

  so why the need for a faithful and discreet slave, in the bible???

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  To “Londo111”: That YouTube video “Who Is the Faithful Slave?” really clarifies things, and it shows how a group of men who call themselves the “Governing Body” can take something so simple and logical and spin it into their own little web of power and control. The authority behind the Watchtower’s empire (corporation) has been “produced” in the same manner as someone pulls a quarter out of their kid’s ear – i.e., it’s all a trick! (And a rather lame one at that.)
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  TATTOOS and da troof - DOES the babble teach what WT claims?

  by hamsterbait in

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  they love to quote the verse "you must not make tattoo markings upon yourself," to "prove" that witlesses should not have body art.. yet the word tattoo is maori in origin.

  how the hell did moses know a maori word???.

  in every other translation it says you must not make cutting marks.

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  You could always get a tatoo of the Watchtower logo, but then they would probably try to sue you for copyright infringement.
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  I feel sorry for the R.Catholic's that got hoodwinked by the J.W.watchtower cult

  by bobld in

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  they are now apostates in the eyes of the church.they are ostracized by family and friends.they have lost the privilege of confessing their sins to a priest and the blessed sacrament of the holy eucharist.just imagine and 18 yr old getting the boot from the parents to leave home.. now,the brainwashed cult member has the audacity to tell family and friends(if allowed) that the r.c.c.

  lied to him/her and said that they could not read and understand the bible w/o the help of the priest.heaven forbid,if they read the publications of the watchtower,the faithful slave(gb) tells j.w.

  that they cannot read the bible on their own and understand it w/o the help of the slave.it is in one ear and out the other.. r.c.c would not ostracize their members..

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  “humbled”: “Religion constipates faith.”

  “LongHairGal”: “However, I think all religions are bad and I would never again get involved with one.” “ This is why I feel that all religions have to go.”

  That’s right on the money!!
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  More JW STATS from this year's CA: God’s Word Is Beneficial for Teaching

  by suavojr in

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  this past weekend i wasted my time at another jw ca, during this time this is what our new do shared with all the drones and i just wanted to share with all of the current awaken jw's or ex-jw's.. .

  public address: who is rocking the nations, and how?.

  we all know the jw leaders love talk about numbers!.

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  “LostGeneration”: “It won't be long now until they simply say they have fulfilled Matt 24:14 via jw.org.”

  Then they’ll say that we have entered the time when the Watchtower’s message has turned into the hard-hitting message like hailstones at Revelation 16:21: “ From the sky huge hailstones, each weighing about a hundred pounds, fell on people. And they cursed God on account of the plague of hail, because the plague was so terrible.” (NIV) Then they will think they can call everybody “mentally diseased,” not just the “apostates.”
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  "Apostate" Letter Writing

  by kneehighmiah in

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  during these cold months i need a way to keep my hours up and stay under the radar.

  i'm still an ms so i can't totally fake it.

  so i decided to try letter writing to avoid going out into the cold.

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  SAHS

  A good and practical idea is to run a few copies of the little flyers and handouts from the Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses, or “AAWA,” and leave some in hospital waiting rooms, doctor’s offices, libraries, churches, auto dealerships, salons, treatment centers, etc. You can have some run by a local print shop on a high-speed color laser system quite economically. You can also set up a little mailing list of effective contacts, and get names, addresses, and email addresses of interested people to add. (Informal witnessing!) You could also use social media (under an alias user name) to invite people to subscribe to your email distribution list. (Use an email address which doesn’t match up in any way to your real name to be safe.)

  You can download the AAWA flyers from the following:

  http://aawa.co/publications/flyers-and-handouts/

  http://aawa.co/publications/aawa-newsletter/

  Now THAT would be time well spent. And just think, you could actually save the life of a child by informing people of the ridiculous folly of the Watchtower’s blood policy. I think Jesus would be proud to see people being made aware of love and mercy vs. loyalty to a corporation and their “theocratic warfare.” I certainly wish you the best of luck. Let those digital presses/copiers and emails fly!