I don't go to the hall, but they have a copy of my directive on file. So with a believing spouse and new signature on file, how might one get around this without declaring DA? That's the tricky part...
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35I committed un-suicide yesterday
by AlmightyDog inyesterday i opened my wallet and took a long look at the (no) blood card prominently displayed inside.
i have been convinced that this is not the truth for a couple of years now, and am trying to figure out whether to fade or da.
it hit me hard yesterday that with this piece of paper in my wallet, i could possibly end up dying for beliefs i no longer hold.
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The Soul
by free2beme inso we were all taught basically this thought.
the soul is our life, not seperate and not something that moves on when we die, right?
yet, for those who die and get ressurected, jehovah remembers them and makes them come to life with their memories, personalities, appearance and so on, right?
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So we were all taught basically this thought. The Soul is our life, not seperate and not something that moves on when we die, right? Yet, for those who die and get ressurected, Jehovah remembers them and makes them come to life with their memories, personalities, appearance and so on, right?
Yeah, ain't that interesting? Or we have no spirit but 144,000 are changed upon death in a twinkling of an eye to become spirit creatures.
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1914: Jesus Chooses Jehovah's Church?
by Stargater into those who lurk, or to those on the brink of leaving the ranks of jehovah's witnesses, try for a moment to put yourselves in the position of we who are not members.
i just bought a book by a former jw, and while i really don't put much credence in the works of apostates i do know how to read in between the lines for things i know to be accurate.
for example, i've read how jesus, in 1914, inspected all of the world's religions and selected the hari krishnas...er...i'm sorry, the jehovah's witnesses...as the one true religion.. to say the least, this sounds a little strange to the uninitiated.
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This is such a good point, one that was tipping for me after I read Don Cameron's book Captive of a Concept.
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I committed un-suicide yesterday
by AlmightyDog inyesterday i opened my wallet and took a long look at the (no) blood card prominently displayed inside.
i have been convinced that this is not the truth for a couple of years now, and am trying to figure out whether to fade or da.
it hit me hard yesterday that with this piece of paper in my wallet, i could possibly end up dying for beliefs i no longer hold.
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Okay, I still have my No Blood Card, reactivating it over a year ago when I *went back* to make sure of all things. My whole life has been indoctrinated with how bad blood transfusions are for medical reasons (not just for the JW abstain from blood scripture reason) and of course I've watched the JW No Blood video which promotes alternatives as a norm, unlike in the past. I walk away from that thinking, "I don't want anyone else's stuff in my body that can make me sick."
I know my JW upbringing plays a primarily into it, but I'd like to 'unlearn' this mindset, so to speak, if possible if there is a line of reasoning I haven't considered. I don't embrace the JW reasons for no blood, but (as I'm fading, again) still think having the card and insisting on alternatives is more safe, the better solution for me. Phobic, could be. Paranoid, possibly.
I know this is a personal decision, and in a life-threatening one my mindset would obviously be different... my hubby is a card-carrying member, so I know I have to decide something.
Can anyone help me out with this struggle? It's got to be common, right? Tell me I'm not alone.
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Why JW's Continue to Survive
by Poztate insome may fall away or slink off to something new, but when your worldview is apocalyptic in nature, a failed doomsday doesnt leave you easily shaken, he says.. instead, what religious people generally do, he says, is write off the end-that-wasnt as an interpretation hiccup.
with deeper study and prayer, theyll be lucky enough to find another doomsday around the corner.. although this comment was not directed at jw's but apocalyptic religions in general it really does fit their world viewpoint perfectly..
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How can they claim that every prophecy in the bible has a greater fulfilment today???
by highdose inseems that the gb take every story they can in the bible and claim that although it happened then, it will also happen now.
although this time it will be the gb who is jehosophat, david, paul, jermiah... etc etc take your pick.
what scriptual basis do they have for this belief??
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A good 'who's that man behind the curtain' question, indeed! One that in my experience would usually get softened and diffused in some variation of "because we're Jehovah's spirit-directed organization and that's what the GB know."
How can they claim anything is absolute truth, really?
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Considering organizing an unbelieving spouse support group in my area. Any suggestions?
by garyneal ini like coming to this board because i like the feeling of knowing that i am not alone in dealing with jehovah's witnesses and their mind control.
however, i still feel largely alone because i cannot find any actual people in the area i live who is dealing with a situation similar to mine.. as most of you know, i am the unbelieving spouse of a jehovah's witness and i find it frustrating to know that holidays, birthdays, etc.
are not held in as high regard by my wife as they are for me.
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There's a ton of us "UBM"s out here.
I was once a baptized believer, and now a fading JW, assured to have active JWs surrounding me in the context of my lifetime due to family fully invested. I'd love to be part of an IRL group like this because the connection and support for the issues we deal with on a daily basis is so important. If anyone knows of a virtual online group like this (or is forming one), please let me know about it.
gary, will your group be open to any demoninational UBM, or just JWs? General JW Meetups for my area don't seem to be very popular, and they don't have this kind of focus. Are you in the US?
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End of the world!
by free2beme inthis is a great link and mentions things we know about, all to well.. http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/06/competition-for-when-the-world-will-end/?hpt=c2.
my favorite part, the term .... cognitive dissonance - the mental turmoil provoked by holding contradictory ideas simultaneously.
enjoy, i love who the jehovah's witnesses are grouped with.
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Sending link to hubby - wondering how a JW on the edge of expectation might see it.
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blood - a different approach
by inbetween inas often discussed here and on other places, there are many good arguments against the wts blood policy.
basically the distinction between what is a component and what a fraction, is often , and right so, target of critisicm.
however, it can get confusing, especially when apologists like thirdwitness or standfirm argue for any spot of reasonableness in it.
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Disfellowshipping Offense
by Had To Go inso i went to my sister's wedding this past sunday, which happened to be smack dab in the middle of a church service.
my all faithful husband told me it was a dfing offense and that he was obligated to tell the elders that i was going to a church.
i really could care less about the actual act of being df it is the fact that my husband felt the need to "turn me in".
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Yikes, Marriage Counseling. Just the kind of setting that makes a person relax and open up.
lol