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  It was fun, it was real, it was real fun...

  by gentlesoul in

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  hey everyone, i don't know why i feel the need to come here and say this as i don't frequent this site anyways but i guess out of respect i feel to say what i got to say.

  i have never been in a lot of your shoes and i thank god for that.

  i am sorry that you all have been put through what you experienced in being a jehovahs witness.

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  cypher50

  It just seems that this wasn't the site for you, gentlesoul; ex-JWs are usually the last people who need more people coming to 'teach' them. This type of site is just the type of thing an ex & current JW needs; if posters here aren't brutally honest then there aren't many other places to turn. Yes, sometimes it does smack of too much cynicism & bitterness but the majority of people here have lost much in their dealings with the Watchtower Society and honestly need a place to vent their feelings.

  I do note a sincere note in the original post so I don't think you mean harm...just picked the wrong forum for your intentions. Hope you find what you are looking for in life...
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  When you were a dub.....did you ever fall asleep when you prayed in bed?

  by gumby in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i did .....all the time.

  it always bothered me that i couldn't even stay awake to thank my god.

  i found out later many did the same.

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  cypher50

  It happens but I don't feel guilty for it because I don't just pray to 'get things'. When I pray at night, I try to just make it about my feelings and thoughts on life so it is usually relaxing enough that I would fall asleep anyway...
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  Making 607 crumble

  by ellderwho in

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  2. beliefs

  during my eight month long study with "elder bob" (moms husband) we have batted around many subjects to say the least.

  but the one that really stands out is the dreaded date of 607 bc.

  im sorry i just will not let up with this date, and him having to prove it can stand.

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  Apparently there cannot be much secular evidence for the traditional chronology because according to the the site you recommended there is uncertainty between 586 or 587. So much for the abundance of secular evidence.

  Um, that is how actual scientific chronology works. It is very foolish & prideful to exclaim that you have an exact date of when something happened...the methods used to come to the conclusion of 586/587 are accurate only to the degree of getting the year nearly accurate. I don't see how this would disprove the secular evidence...

  And I don't see how you easily disclaim secular evidence to the contrary when you still haven't provided any "secular" evidence regarding 607 B.C....and you included one piece of evidence (the Aid book) who has had two of its own authors say that it wasn't entirely forthright on the subject (both R. Franz & E. Dunlap)....
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  SEX: As a JW, Were you ever thisclose to having sex and then chickened out?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as a jw, were you ever thisclose to having sex and then chickened out?

  being raised (since the age of 7) as a jw, i grew up very frustrated sexually.

  everything about sex carried a heavy burden of guilt.

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  cypher50

  If we are going to get technical, my first sexual experience was with another JW: myself. LOLOLOLOL
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  SEX: As a JW, Were you ever thisclose to having sex and then chickened out?

  by Funchback in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as a jw, were you ever thisclose to having sex and then chickened out?

  being raised (since the age of 7) as a jw, i grew up very frustrated sexually.

  everything about sex carried a heavy burden of guilt.

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  cypher50

  No, because the JW indoctination left me extremely innocent and I used to run from women before it even got to that stage.

  True, true, true. I'm not unexperienced (thank goodness) but till this day I am totally confused on approaching women because I keep having these thoughts in the back of my head telling me that it is all wrong and dirty. Probably have to go to therapy for that stuff...thanks Watchtower organization!
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  "The Hobbit" Movie?

  by Gerard in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  fortunately, he seems to be interested!

  jackson keen on hobbit movie .

  lord of the rings director peter jackson is interested in making jrr tolkien's the hobbit.

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  cypher50

  Well, billygoat, I don't think that this would turn out like the SW prequels because 1) the screenplay would be based off an already well-known story & 2) a Hobbit movie would be made fairly close to the LOTR trilogy movies.
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  New Puyallup Assembly Hall

  by seattleniceguy in

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  hey, look at me, i feel like i'm in the apostate cia.

  apparently i'm still on someone's jw mailing list, so i was sent pictures of the newly remodeled puyallup assembly hall.

  here ya go:.

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  cypher50

  What is the big deal about the seats? Oh wait, I forgot that I grew up in the Watchtower Farm circuit...the Assembly Hall in Monroe, NY wasn't amazing but it did manage to have comfortable seats to sleep in...
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  New Puyallup Assembly Hall

  by seattleniceguy in

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  hey, look at me, i feel like i'm in the apostate cia.

  apparently i'm still on someone's jw mailing list, so i was sent pictures of the newly remodeled puyallup assembly hall.

  here ya go:.

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  cypher50

  Wow, what beautiful architecture...it reminds me of every other assembly hall built in the last five years. Variety is da devil!
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  Who Is Stafford & Are His Books Worth Reading?

  by cypher50 in

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  2. friends

  forgive me if i have the wrong author, but a long time ago when i felt like peaking in an 'apostate' forum .

  are his books worth reading?

  if so, where can they be obtained?

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  Forgive me if I have the wrong author, but a long time ago when I felt like peaking in an 'apostate' forum , I saw people mentioning someone by the name of Stafford. They kept calling him an apologist author for Witnesses...

  Are his books worth reading? If so, where can they be obtained?
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  What Depresses You About Jehovah's Witnesses?

  by minimus in

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  many persons express why they are angry toward the jw religion but what gets you depressed, just thinking about it, regarding the witnesses?

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  cypher50

  I'm fortunate that at 23 I have been able to find the real truth about the WTS...I don't feel depressed but rather pity for all those Bethel brothers giving away their formidable years because of the incorrect teachings & subtle thought-control techniques employed by the Society. Do I believe they are brainwashed? No, I grew up near Watchtower Farms and most of the brothers there were very thoughtful...but they have been told so many times that the world has nothing for them that they just seem to accept 'what mother tells them' without actually testing their doctrines.

  Either way, I just pray that sooner rather then later the organization's teachings will be shown for what they are: BS.