Posts by trumangirl

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The TRUTH for dummies. Chapter 1

by beaker in

being only newly freed from the wts, there are many people who were my friends that i would like to be able to explain the truth about many of the points raised on this board.

so i have decided to compile a publication that i can mail to them with short succinct, hardhitting reasoning on areas where the wts is misleading them and also areas where they are saying one thing but practising another.

i would like to be able to limit the explanations to one topic per page with the hope that if there is not too much too read they may just bother to read it.

trumangirl

Yeh Beaker, I think the cross/stake argument is not impressive to devout JWs. It's not really something that matters much. It will put them off listening further.

I've found if you stick to prophetic interpretation when talking to JWs - eg tell them why you no longer believe in 1914 (read Carl Olof Johnson's book and ewatchman's reasonings on it), that is more acceptable to them than doctrinal arguments, because JWs know and accept that the WTS stuffs up on prophecy. Then, when they've got questions buzzing in their heads that have to be answered, they may start looking deeper into the 'truth'.

moogs

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E-Watchman Provides a Sickening Reminder

by Corvin in

my brief membership to the e-watchman's site was a sickening reminder of the brainwashing and hypocrisy of the wtbts.

through my sources, i have obtained a rare picture of the illusive e-watchman.

why does he look so familiar to me .

trumangirl

Have you seen the discussion board posts? (the discussion board is a new feature). Nauseating. There's a poster on there called "Miss Ann Thrope". very fitting.

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PLEASE HELP! Assist in 1914 Rebuttal...

by Jared in

ok, so i'm trying to just plant a tiny seed of doubt somewhere in the cracks of my mothers mind, but that woman has 'jehovah' tattooed on her chest!

anyway, i would not only like help for her benefit but also for my benefit.

so it all started when i questioned her about 1914.... i wrote to her: 'as you had suggested i wanted to do some research.

trumangirl

E-watchman.com has done a good essay about it.

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e-watchman, thoughts from past topic

by confusedjw in

i was looking back and a month ago there was a topic about e-watchman and who he was and why he would expose the wt with one side of his mouth and encourage loyalty with the other side.

i wonder if these might be the reasons.... 1. he himself claims to be of the anointed and truly believes he is helping to expose the "evil slave" amongst jehovah's people.. 2. by encouraging loyalty to the wt he doesn't scare away the numberous active witnesses who read his columns and send in questions.

they read and stay in the congregations.

trumangirl

pardon?

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Finding serenity after leaving the JWs

by NaruNaruChan in

tonight was such an interesting and profound night for me.

i went to class... well, specifically a class that i enjoy a great deal... with a professor who has inspired me since i began college...

so i'm sitting there, listening to him lecture, watching him walk back and forth across the stage with this huge projection of the u.s. territories in the background... and for the first time in what seems like ages, my soul spoke to me.

trumangirl

That's cool, I enjoyed that.

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Making a smooth transition out of the org... is it possible?

by Surfacing in

hello again friends,.

it's been a while since i posted.

thank you again for your kind words and advice.

trumangirl

I find it interesting that so many who've faded have had such efforts made and visits to try and encourage them back in. I haven't been to a meeting for months, no one's visited me to encourage me. I have mixed feelings bout that. It is a snobby, 'cliquey' congregation anyway, even for regular attenders.

trumangirl

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WT answers to Apostate lies, half truths and deceptions.

by Black Sheep in

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i am looking for the wt articles that contest the lies, half truths and deceptions used by apostates to weaken jws faith in jehovah's spirit directed organization.. can anyone help me find them?.

please?

trumangirl

Black sheep, I quote from the Feb 15 2004 WT, page 17, para 17:

"How can we guard against being deceived by apostates? By heeding the advice from God's Word, which says: "Keep an eye on those who cause divisions and occasions for stumbling contrary to the teaching that you have learned, and avoid them" (Romans 16:17). We "avoid them" by steering clear of their reasonings - whether in person, in printed form, or on the Internet."

So from this we can see that JWs will never know what the lies, half-truths and deceptions are, since these are contained in the REASONINGS of apostates.

But how does one know to avoid an apostate reasoning before one hears it? If you've already heard the reasoning enough to tell its apostate, DOH you've missed your chance to avoid being deceived by apostates.

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Favourite Scriptures to Refute JWs ......

by xjw_b12 in

do you have any favourite scriptures you use to refute jws, or at least tick them off !

i have a couple i like:.

re the wtbts false prophecies: .

trumangirl

When I read your question I immediately thought of Deut 18.21,22 and there you've got it right there.

Brilliant!

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e-watchman, thoughts from past topic

by confusedjw in

i was looking back and a month ago there was a topic about e-watchman and who he was and why he would expose the wt with one side of his mouth and encourage loyalty with the other side.

i wonder if these might be the reasons.... 1. he himself claims to be of the anointed and truly believes he is helping to expose the "evil slave" amongst jehovah's people.. 2. by encouraging loyalty to the wt he doesn't scare away the numberous active witnesses who read his columns and send in questions.

they read and stay in the congregations.

trumangirl

Yeh I don't get it, XThai guy.

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E-watchman hath awakened me...

by czarofmischief in

who dares disturb czar during his slumbers from the board?

e-watchman dares!

very well, some of you seem to be in love with apocalypse already boy... look ye, upon his works, and despair.. from his latest commentary:.

trumangirl

I disagree czar, ewatchman was clearly quoting the author of the triple curve thing. He's not making the claim himself.

I am not a follower of ewatchman, but I think that just because the WT and earlier false prophets were wrong on their claims, doesn't mean the great tribulation isn't coming.

My approach is to wait and see. If the dollar collapses, and the things ewatchman predicts come true, then he was right. If we're comfortable with our standing before God and that God is loving and merciful, all will be fine in the end. The problem with the WT's predictions is that they use it to prod JWs to more 'action', and still think they're true prophets despite their many failures.

They jury's out on ewatchman in my opinion.

trumangirl