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  well why dont you tell me where I screwed up????

  by mouthy in

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  to listen to mouthy's interview just click here and download it!

  (33.2 mb) .

  thanks go to nathan natas for providing the audio recording!

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  lilybird

  I enjoyed listening to your radio interview. You were very informative about the cult of the Jehovah's Witnesses.
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  The GB: evil manipulators or misguided fools

  by New Worldly Translation in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been pondering this question for a while now and i haven't come to a conclusion yet.

  on the one hand there is evidence of psychological manipulation in their publications.

  they discourage questioning of their authority or even their fallability and try to whitewash past mistakes.

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  lilybird

  They are men who like power over others and they like money that position in the org brings to them . They don't live in the real world and have no understanding of the human nature, except how to brainwash their followers with one lie after another. They are very clever at hiding their manipulations. and blame their followers if their predicitions e.g. dates/times , don't come true.
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  Did You Feel Being Disfellowshipped Or Reproved Was Justified???

  by minimus in

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  at the time you got "disciplined", did you feel you "deserved" it??

  what about now????

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  lilybird

  Welcome Smurf, I was not DF'd , I chose to tell the elders I no longer wanted to be associated with or considered one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The elders are not trained to deal with someone with substance or alcohol addiction. They simply want to rid themselves of any problems and covering it by calling it "keeping Jehovah's congregation clean" I know because I had my own dealings with them when they wanted to DF my mother because she suffered from mental illness. You sound like you have figured out yourself and know what you want out of life. The elders did you a favour. They gave you your life back. I have never regretted leaving and my kids are thankful that I didn't raise them in a life of JW drudgery. I agree with what Odrade said, They are like a ridiculous kangaroo court.
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  My thoughts on hating the WTS.

  by kwintestal in

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  2. friends

  " i was thinking today about hating the wts, and you know i really do, and for many reasons which i won't really get into here.. on this thought, i imagined the jwd (jesus' wacky discussion forum) website of 2000 years ago.

  i'm sure many of jesus' new followers would start threads about having their hands cut off, being stoned and the secret backroom shenanigans of the pharisees.

  all there is, is hate here!

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  lilybird

  The WTS , when you realize what a lying mindgame they play with their followers, is easy to hate. When I left 18 years ago, I didn't hate the org or anyone in it, I was just happy to make my escape. And I was too busy raising 3 kids to think much more about it. Just the last year or so, (maybe as your kids get closer to adulthood and I am in my 40's now) I have become more reflective on just how much damage the WTS did do to my life. While my life has fortunately turned out great, with my husband and kids, I know I would have more choices. That makes me angry and I did hate for a while. This forum has brought out a lot more lies about the WTS that I never knew, and it shocks my husband also. But I have decided that hate is an energy waster, While it is theraputic to discuss our feeling about our time "wasted" in the org, I have decided not to hate. I feel sorry for the friends I left behind who are still under the black spell of the WTS. I am happy to help anyone see the "Truth"about the WTS.But life is too short and I want to enjoy what I have back after so many lost years. Still I am thankful for this discussion forum and for all the insightful postings from others who understand what I have gone through.
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  Takin a VACATION- need lots of input!

  by upside/down in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok i'm ready to take a vacation and i'm suffering from information overload.. last year i went to iberostar in cozumel june 10 thru 17 - the absolute worst vacation of my life!

  it rained 29 inches in 6 hours and 50 inches the whole week.

  the power was out and a state of emergency was declared and everything was flooded and wet.. so this year i'm looking at the mayan riviera or perhap turks & caicos or st. lucia- any suggestions (be detailed).

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  lilybird

  We stayed last winter at the Crown Paradise Resort in Cancun. It was amazing. Beautiful white sandy beach, all inclusive. Five restaurants and a buffet to chose from. 3 swimming pools and a swim up bar. The service was perfect. They had live shows every nite. You could sit and drink at 4 different bars all nite. as much as you wanted. They do have a web site so you can browse the hotel. We enjoyed it and would definately go back.They also have an all adult resort further up the street if u don't want the noise of families. My husband and I checked it out as they have a free shuttle than runs between the 2 resorts so you can spend the day at either. The all adult resort was beautiful and much much quieter. Depends what u are looking for..oh. and there is a poolside bar so you can drink on the beach if you like...
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  The Myth of Unconditional Love

  by frankiespeakin in

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  i here this a lot all the time.

  i think it is one huge myth,,based on a self-biased view.

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  lilybird

  The only unconditional "love" the society understands is blind, unwavering devotion to their cult, the Watchtower society
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  Coming out from hiding

  by pc in

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  i post here on and off but always read everyones post to see what's happening.

  lately i have had this really strong desire to just say screw it this is who i am and write it here.

  i told my husband who has never been a witness, but he is afraid that someone will try to df me.i have faded for a really long time.

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  lilybird

  My husband and I struggled with leaving, which meant leaving our friends and his family. But once we actually made the break; We told the elders we wanted out, and they officially announced it at the meeting. It was very freeing for us and we were able to move on. It was easier for us though I think, because my sisters and father were not JWS and were happy for us and my husband's parents, while they were strong JW believers, did NOT believe in shunning and would not turn their backs on us, even after they were counseled several times by the elders to shun us. In fact my husband's father was eventually made an elder. and still didn't believe in shunning us. I guess that made it easier for us as we didn't lose family. Everyone's situation is different and you must do what feels best for you. I know the feeling of wanting them to know they have no hold on you any longer and you are free to think and live as you want. The only sad part is to have to lose family. Hopefully you can find your way that will work for you.
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  What Annoys You???????

  by minimus in

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  one of my pet peeves is being behind a too slow driver.

  it "drives" me crazy!

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  lilybird

  People who don't understand that a 4-way stop at an intersection means you must stop .. then proceed, not slow down and then proceed..

  Paying the GST in Canada which adds 7% on everything we buy, on top of the PST which is another 8%, even though the gov't promised they would do away with the GST tax several years ago.Being taxed 15% on practically everything really makes your purchase expensive.
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  What I remember from 1975

  by Big Dog in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since i am sort of late to the party this has probably been beaten to death and if it has just kick this thread to the curb.

  i was 11 years old in 1975 and i remember being scared silly the whole year.

  i mean there was so much hype about it and the tension in the air was so thick it was unreal.

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  lilybird

  In 1974, many brothers refered to 1975 as a "marked" year. I think by that way, they were leaving an "out" in case nothing did happen, but if it did... they told you to be ever faithful!!! Also I remember many brothers who had sold their homes prior to 19'75, only to turn around and buy homes again a few years later. Its sad the way the WTS messes with so many ppl's minds..
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  1975??????

  by whyamihere in

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  2. friends

  i have a question....what did you all think dec 31st 1975 right before 1976 hit?

  then after it turned 1976 what did you all think after that?

  i never asked that question before.

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  lilybird

  I was relieved too really,, I didn't really believe it would happen, I was 17 at the time, and didn't really want the world to change , not as much as the JWS did anyways..too bad I stuck with the Org until I was 29 though... it took having kids of my own to realize what the real "truth" of life is...