I used to wonder why whenever the "deficit" would be announced with the monthly accounts report, or even at conventions - they would give a dollar amount needed and "suggest" everyone to dig deep to come up with it - why didn't they take the attendance count and then divide the amount needed by the number of people there to contribute and just come right out and say " O.K. - if everybody puts in 1/2 of a cent, we will have what is needed?" Instead, they hope everybody is lame enough to think they need to put in a $20 bill !!
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39Where is the MONEY REALLY GOING? -- Special Assembly Days, etc
by EyeDrEvil ini have always wondered why it cost so much to "rent" the space used for local special assembly days and circuit assemblies.... in our case, the society built a large assembly hall, on donated farm land (= free), in the middle of some corn fields 20 miles outside of columbus, ohio... the property has a couple of apartments where some of the travelling overseers live, who help with the upkeep of the building.
cleaning the building was taken care of because of our "privilege" to go out the day before the assembly to get it in good shape (free housekeeping and maintenance work).. so, the society owns the building.
it was built on free land.
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Birthdays..... Now A Conscience Matter
by Latte infrom our readers (awake!
july 8 2004)
pinatas i read with interest the article ?the pinata - an ancient tradition?
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I read it as stating that, yes, it is a conscience matter now. They don't have the b***s to come right out and say it yet in the WA, but they bury it in the AW, probably thinking not many will even read clear to page 30 to see it. I would say a barrage of letters from "readers" for clarification will merit the topic more consideration. Will be interesting........
Haven't I even heard that some have been DF'd for celebrating a birthday, and/or even sending a card??
If it IS a conscience matter, it will just be another means for some to put themselves on high over others who decide to celebrate. Kind of wierd to even think about actually in that context.
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To current JWs/those who still go to meetings,etc - how is your faith? 5 Qs
by my-journey ini know its stupid of me to post a new topic when i haven't finished reading my first thread, but i wanted to know stuff about any current jws that may be here.
you don't need to reply if you want to tell me off or say something o/t.
you can use my first thread for that, since that thread is more general.
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4JWY
5 Q's = 12 Q's with my count Too many for me
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HELP! How do you answer the Elders without incriminating yourself?
by stichione ini?m due soon for a shepherding call from my congregation elders for a variety of reasons: being irregular in service, s poradically attending meetings, and o h yes, writing in a letter to the society asking for clarifications on the blood ban.
i?m sure that one question that they will be asking me is: d
o you believe that jehovah is using the organization as his only approved channel of communication?
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4JWY
With the phrase:
" It's confidential"
They are SUPPOSED to know what that means. But, in practice, we found they do not honor it.
All the best to you
4JWY
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If things turn ugly for the Western world, will you run back to "Mother"?
by True North inwho knows what will come in the years ahead from terrorism, global warming, conflict over natural resources, proliferation of wmd, et al.?
it's not hard to imagine truly horrific things happening.
i don't think it's likely, but perhaps one day the major powers might even respond to religion-related terrorism by joining together to restrain or control religion under the banner of the u.n.. such events certainly could trigger a response from the fears/phobias that ex-jws may carry around with them due to years of wt indoctrination -- however much repressed these are at most times.
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We were required to turn in a time slip each month for our son's (non-bptzd pubs) who were no longer even coming to meetings. At OUR very last meeting attended, there was one of those talks where they hand out a time slip to everybody in the audience and give the pitch about the need to turn them in on time. We sat there and wrote on each slip, one son's name, and a sentence stating they are no longer attending and are not going in service either. We turned them in to the study conductor at the end of the meeting - and he went crazy on us - for not filling in an actual big digit "zero" in the time column! I mean, he was losing it right there at the back of the hall - angry - as my husband stated that our written explanation should suffice. This incident was just the icing on the cake - that point we needed to reach - before deciding to never return.
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Daughter Moving On From JW BF . . .
by Corvin inmy daughter has been accepting of my intervening in her relationship with an unbaptized jw.
although still sad at times, she is determined to finish high school (this is her senior year) and go on to college.
(carl, her x-boyfriend, is a hs drop out and aspires to get a job at guitar center and eventually get certified for smog inspecting automobiles.
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Corvin - I hope your daughter will continue to make those special memories of a young lady's life! Too many of us missed out on those milestones and it's wonderful that you are able to share with her the excitement of those special times. She's strikingly beautiful too!
Best regards,
4JWY
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The Stepford Wives is coming!
by talesin inthe remake is set for release on june 11. .
do you remember the first one?
it was sooooo creepy.
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4JWY
flyin' - hey - the more the merrier I say! Oh well(hubby)
lol, the pink sponges!
I had moved to a new school as a high school freshman - on my first day there, I'm sitting in home room class at the start of the day feeling all self conscious and not knowing anybody, when the kid behind me taps me on the shoulder and tells me that I had a pink sponge roller in the back of my hair!! I just wanted to die and cried with embarrassment..
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Do you think people are amazed you left?
by Sassy inwhether you have been disfellowshipped, or disasociated yourself or just slowly are fading or inactive... .
or even are still there at the hall attending due to family.. .
do you think that when you were at your 'strongest as a believer' that anyone would have guessed how you feel about the wts now?.
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Last night at a restaurant happy hour, we ran into a couple from our last cong. The JW rumour mill had led them to believe that we were attending a different congregation these days, since they haven't seen us for two years now. They asked where we go, and we said, " We DON'T GO anymore". They were stunned speechless and made a very quick exit with a "we miss you". (They live one block away from us, but have never missed us enough to come over)
Also, last night - folks at a nearby table invited us to join them and the conversation that ensued was like an X-Jdub demonstration or something. - the one girl's brother is a professor at a university in Kansas and he studies - cults! Go figure - we had a lot to share with them and they were amazed to hear the life of a JW and the exit process too.
Best to you all
4JWY
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What Couldn't You Do on Meeting Nights?
by Nosferatu init's funny how new rules were made in the house that applied to meeting nights only.
one major one was no video games before the meeting.
my mother also tried to extinguish worldly music before meetings.
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What couldn't you do on meeting nights?
It got to the point where I could barely walk in the door of the KH - and eventually couldn't get out of the car once we pulled in the parking lot.
SadElder ~ I too, would not have a glass of wine with dinner on mtg nights for fear someone would think I'd been drinking.