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  Help me describe the idealized JW fantasyland

  by sir82 in

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  based on the illustrations in the books & magazines, and the videos produced by the society, describe the world that the gb would like jws to live in.. for example.... -- parties never have more than 15 persons attending.

  entertainment consists of one chap playing a guitar while the rest sing kingdom melodies, followed by stimulating conversations of "field service experiences" and "how i came into the truth".

  -- children of all ages are perfectly well-behaved for the full 2 hours of a congregation meeting.

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  Scwharzennegger angels in pairs accompany sisters through dangerous neighborhoods, invisibly directing them to those sighing and groaning, and visibly malevolent

  to hurtful wolves in the territory.
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  1919 Appointment

  by garybuss in

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  when jesus appointed the watch tower corporation as his only channel on earth in 1919, what did he appoint?

  did he appoint the people?

  they're all dead now.. did he appoint the printing equipment?

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  A dead man doesn't accept a blood tranfusion.

  A dead man doesn't salute the flag.
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  Lurking Elders Watching the Board / more info about the newbie.

  by SnakesInTheTower in

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  to answer alligator wisdom's request for more info on myself...it will have to come out in trickles.

  i am a prolific writer if i allow myself.

  for now, i will tell you that until recently i was an elder.

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  Welcome. I was a pioneer and elder myself up to a few months ago. I am glad that I was because it enabled me to see things that the average dub is not exposed to. You get to see

  the sausage being made. I am still in but fading fast. Haven't been to ANY book study since the Revelation Book began to be studied again.

  One of my friends, a little older than I, whispered in my ear the other day: We love you no matter what you believe. So, there is hope for others but the mind fog is a powerful thing.

  Good luck.
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  I know we're not supposed to speculate, but....

  by journey-on in

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  2. scandals

  based on a post today about the decrease in incoming donations to the wts and this.

  i believe that the new mag arrangement starting next jan is the beginning of the wt becoming a really, really dangerous cult.

  from another post, i speculate that the "for jws only" issue of the watchtower is going to be heavy on $$$ issues.

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  The WT has outsourced almost everything at the Bethel with the exception of literature and mag. printing. I think if they could sell the Roland Mann presses they would even outsource

  the printing as Gary said. Maybe they have a plan in the works.

  All they need are their cadre of sycophants. And as much as membership may slow, there will always be plenty of those.

  As for speculating, only the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses is allowed to speculate.
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  Nine JW assumptions about 1914 and Daniel 4

  by a Christian in

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  i just sent this letter to a jw who came knocking on my door talking to me about 1914. i doubt it does him much good since he will probably not read it.

  first, you assume that when christ spoke of the the times of the gentiles he was referring to a period of time which began when jerusalem was destroyed by babylon and would end with his enthronement in heaven.

  ), the year in which the bible tells us that he destroyed jerusalem.

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  Excellent.
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  Don't read this!! As I am really P....off at the WT and have to vent

  by RedPill2006 in

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  2. beliefs

  today i have realized (once more) how the watchtower shit cult has ruined my life!

  today i am really pissed off at them...... i'm writing this hoping that two groups of people read this.

  either some watchtower people that monitor this site or people that think to join this crap!.

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  I was an elder and pioneer, too. A TRUE believer. Sucker is more like it......

  Welcome. Stay a while. I'm still livid over the crap of this man-made belief system.

  Live well. That's the best revenge.

  Zack-----
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  who really rules the world now?

  by michiyo84 in

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  for now the rules of dis world is satan.

  but for 1 day satan will b destroyed.

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  The TOP 1000 corporations in the world rule the world. 1000 CEO's run everything.
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  Are people REALLY leaving??

  by lavendar in

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  wingcommander said in a previous post:.

  the bad news is this: the older generation of jw's is dying off, while the younger generation thanks to the internet and research, is able to see through the history of false prophecy and absolute control, and is now leaving in droves!

  (he meant "bad news" for the wts).

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  People are leaving. It is a fact. Are others joining? Yes. That is a fact as well. But it's like losing your hair.

  You lose hair, you get it replaced. At some point in time the new hair is of inferior quality and with a shorter life cycle. The shorter the life cycle, the quicker the hair

  leaves your head and the slower it is replaced. After a while there are no more replacement hairs and you are bald.

  After awhile there will be no more replacement Witnesses in the West. Already the "quality" of new witnessess is below par. They are baptizing CHILDREN for

  crying our loud! The Confederacy put children in uniform at the END of their struggle. Germany did the same. They are leaving. Save your son.
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  Update Regarding How The May 1 QFR Is "Playing" In The Congregations

  by Justitia Themis in

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  2. beliefs

  i have been emailing with a sister in my congregation regarding the qfr.

  i told her i wasn't discussing it with most jws, because i didn't want to hear any of their "new light" garbage.

  i told her this isn't new light; this just means that what we paraded out in 1935 as "new light" was wrong.. she sheepishly (no pun intended) agreed.

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  The GB contradict their own doctrine, maybe because they do not understand what they are teaching.

  In 1995, not only did the "generations" teaching change, but also the "seperating of sheep from the goats" and the timing of Christ sitting on his throne.

  The Bible says that it is at that time, when Christ sits on the thrown, that the chosen ones are gathered. Yet the GB teach that the gathering is "ongoing." Revelation

  identifies they great crowd as those that "come out of the great tribulation" which is an event, by their reckoning, to be yet future. So, since the ANGELS gather the chosen ones,

  and the great crowd are yet a future group, in what group are witnesses today? They are literally in LIMBO by their own teachings.

  I talked to an elder friend of mine the other day about my skipping meetings as of late (it has become quite obvious). I told him that I would go back to the meetings

  if he could gaurantee that the doctrines would keep from changing. He couldn't. I haven't.
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  How much JW doctrine is in harmony with the Bible?

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  some have stated that the jw's go too far with their doctrine, but that much of the basic.

  beliefs of the religion are correct.

  i don't want to debate whether the bible is correct.. i just want opinions on how much of the jw doctrine agrees with the actual teachings of .

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  I was the poster who said that the Paradise Earth doctrine for all believers except the "anointed" that JW's assert as the "TRUTH" in their theology is not supported in scripture. Here is

  what I mean: God, as recorded in Genesis, told Adam and Eve to be "fruitful and multiply and to have in subjection the creatures of land, sea, and air." That was it. That was the only

  affirmative command placed on man and it was without promise or consequence.

  The addition of a promise or a consequence is significant to me, for Jesus said to the Pharisees that they

  invalidated God's word, namely "Honor your father and your mother, which is the first commandment WITH A PROMISE."

  The other was about not eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and bad. Not an affirmative

  command, but a PROHIBITION with a consequnce. No where in this account does God say that man would live forever on Earth.

  Then you have Christ coming, Christ who reconciles all things to God, who is the fulfillment of the phrophets and of law and the "gaurantee" of God's PROMISES, and what he offers

  is life in heaven, to dwell in the house of his father, the place to where he was going and where his disciples would follow. So if Christ came to restore all things, and the life he PROMISED

  was in heaven, where does "living forever on a paradise Earth" fit in? Why not promise life on Earth? Why is it so difficult for those who believe in God and the Bible, who believe that the

  plan of God was a "sacred secret", to also believe that in time God would have revealed His purpose for man one step at a time, gradually, as He has done thus far, except without sin in

  the picture? Why not believe that God knew all these things were going to happen and allowed them to happen, without recriminating God?

  I believe in God. I believe that the Bible has lots that is from God, but has lots that is not from God. "Test the inspired expression to see whether it originates with God." That is sage

  advice from the Bible itself. And if the everlasting future of any believer in God depends on their discerning the "truth" about God, why would it be wrong to look at the Bible critically?

  I think for any former Jehovah's Witness, credulity in the sayings of anyone has no place in their paradigm.

  JW doctrine is full of lies, half truths, superstition. They are the blind leading the blind. I do not believe that any person who cannot bring himself to accept the Bible as the inerrant

  Word of God has renounced either his faith or belief in God. I can understand why many would see it all as a fairy tale. Frankly, it is quite UNBELIEVABLE. However,

  I have come to learn that just because something is unbelievable does not make it less true or real. Often, fantastic things are, in fact, true. Paradise Earth JW style is not

  one of those things.