first of all, why don't all of you congratulate me on 2000 posts!
in other news, the jc is over.
because of this we have an elder that lied to us and to my wife parents.
Congratulations on 2000 posts!!!!!!!
As for the JC, many of us knew it was a done deal. The JC is about POWER. They want to let you know they have it and you don't. The only sheep the WTS is interested in is the lamb chops they're treated to at Ruth's Chris.
I do hope your family sees that this religion is not about God or Christ or the Kingdom or righteousnes or love or ANYTHING other then perpetuating their printing business.
All the best you and your family.
Zack----
i am not a bible believer.
i have a question for those of you who are bible believers.
if you believe that jesus is not god, how do you justify the following:.
I believe Jesus is God. I DO NOT believe he is the Almighty God, the Father, the Creator of all things.
Jesus is God, I believe, in the sense that the Creator vested everything in the Son save for that which he could not vest--- his own and unique person.
But everything else did come into existence through, for, and by Jesus--- at least according to Scripture. So the Almighty creates the Son, who then creates everything else. And since he created/made us, he also loved us and came and died for us--- not because God necessarily wanted him to, but because the Son wanted to. I think it was the plan from the beginning, but that's a different matter for another day.
Anyway, I have only recently started to think about such things since my only paradigm from infancy was the JW one. That said, I do not think the Jews or the early believers in Christianity beleived that the Father and the Son were the same person, though they may have beleived they were of the same nature. According to Scripture, however, humans owe their creation to Jesus and their redemption to Jesus. I can see how many might think of him as God.
as many of you are aware, i've been writing letters to many in my family telling them where i disagree with the wt; imagine how surprised i was when my cousin invited me to his kid's graduation knowing that there were sure to be many witnesses there who i assumed whoud be in the mood for confrontation.
of course i went, as i'm trying a new policy of not backing down from the witnesses; using reverse psycology to try and get them ashamed of being witnesses instead of them trying to make me feel bad about my disssent.
after the graduation, my older cousin, who's much like a real brother to me said that we needed to talk.
Dawg:
Good for you. There is liberation in taking your life into your own hands and steering your own course.
I recently said to a friend of mine (although the conversation was not anti-WTS, just anti- my not being at the meetings) that God was going to judge me on what I did on my own and not in relation to anyone else, right?
His answer: That's right. He is going to judge you and you alone both for what you do (drum roll because he thought he had me) and what you don't do (meetings, feild service)
So I told Him that as long as God was the one who was going to judge me on what I did or didn't do, then I was going to decide for MYSELF what to do or not do. If I had to pay the price or recieve the reward ON MY OWN, why would I listen to anyone else?
Keep up the good fight, bro.
homer simpson here.
i just wasted my 500th master post ( doh!!
) on somethin' pretty trivial on another thread.
I'm not worthy.
lots of churches baptize those willing right at the church why do you think the jws don't do the same?
would it be too "discouraging" in congregations where there were no new ones baptized for a long time.
maybe they are trying for a bandwagon effect?
If they really followed the scriptures, any JW could baptize a convert at any time. Matt.28:19,20 says to makes disciples, baptizing them...... No JW baptizes any one else....It is all WTS choreographed. Jehovah is a God of order, after all. Only took 2000 years for Him to get baptism just right.
please never think that you can reason with an "older man", a "spiritual shepherd", an "elder".
elders already know what their agenda is.
if they want to talk with you, they control the format.
A JC is not about JUSTICE. It is about POWER.
when a witness or ex-witness seeks investment in real estate or the stock market, they often hear .
the annoying advice about those "determined to be rich" ( 1 tim 6:9).
for most of us, this is nonsense.. when this scripture was written, was there a stable financial system that serviced rich and poor alike?.
I have always told people that if I have to work 40 or 50 hours a week, why not work the same 40 or 50 hours a week and make more money?
Why work at a job for minimum wage when you can work at a job for premium wage? Why clean windows when you can own the window factory?
The WTS wants to keep you poor and ill informed, dependent upon them for everything.
Thanks for the thread.
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Thanks for the thread and the info.
I never went online until after Pioneer Service School. It was there that such focus was put on the WTS that I found it both frightening and unbelievable.
When my CO said to the class: Nathan Knorr was elected President of the Society at 37. Can you imagine that? Being appointed over all Christ's interests on the whole planet at only 37! Can you imagine?
For the first time, I could not imagine it. It was steady downhill from there. (Downhill to Freedom)
first of all i wanted to say that many of you have given some very good suggestions.
there is about 5 different things i'm making a point to do now that i wasn't thinking of before.
thanks a bunch!
Drew:
You need to write them and specifically ask what the meeting is about, who will be there, where it will be, what time it will be. Write it down, man! This puts THEM on the defensive.
Dear Brothers:
I appreciate the concern you are showing for the spiritual welfare of my family. Indeed, JesusChrist-- The Fine and True Sheperd--- would find commendable the love you are displaying. Prior to our meeting, which Bro. So and So has told me about, I request to know the following:
1. The time and place of the meeting
2. The attendants at this meeting
3. The purpose of this meeting.
I know you will respect my concerns in this regard since I have always known you to be kind and humble servants of the flock under your care and that you would do nothing that would make one of God's sheep stumble.
Your brother,
