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  The Eden Story

  by choosing life in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the garden of eden, god supposedly didn't want adam and eve to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad.

  he preferred they remain innocent and incapable of deciding for themselves what is right or wrong.. along comes satan who wants them to eat of this tree and says they will become like god, knowing good and bad for themselves.

  he says they will be like god.. as we all know, they chose to eat and find out what they were missing.

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  zack

  How can innocents go head to head with Satan? Adam and Eve didn't stand a chance. God knew exactly what would happen. It may all be part of his plan.
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  Name one thing the JW's would like to see changed in their religion?

  by JH in

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  2. friends

  lets say the jw's were allowed to write down on a piece of paper, without anyone knowing who wrote what, one thing that they would like changed in their religion, what do you think most jw's would want changed?

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  zack

  The legal right to put offenders and dissenters to death.
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  Amazing how much time I have with my family now.

  by lrkr in

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  2. friends

  i have been fading pretty fast over the last several months.

  it is amazing how much time service, meetings and the before and after meeting socializing takes away from your life.

  i have noticed that i have more time to spend with my family, my marriage feels better and i spend more one-on-one time with my son.

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  I am way less stressed than i have ever been. Just knowing that i don't have to attend the mental embalming is a source of joy!
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  Sister/Brother *** is disfellowshipped for.....

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in the 1950's i remember they used to say what they were disfellowshipped for, whether it be fornication, stealing, etc.

  then it was disfellowshipped for "loose conduct", then "conduct not becoming a christian.

  " then it was simply "disfellowshipped" or "disassociated.

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  zack

  I remember it that way. I was 4 years old when I asked my mom what fornication was. She asked me where I had heard that word. I told her at the Kingdom Hall. Her answer was pretty good: It's something Jehovah's Witnesses aren't supposed to do.
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  "But what do i tell the friends?"

  by zack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so three weeks ago my wife and i had an emotional discussion wherein i finally told her that this religion was not the truth.

  there was much emotion, a chill has ensued in our relationship.

  (i haven't been to a meeting in 4 months now, and have not reported time in two months) i am sure many of you know the drill.. towards the end of our conversation, she asks: but what do i tell the friends when they ask about you?.

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  zack

  This wasn't a shock to her (my thinking), my telling her forthrightly and in no uncertain terms may have been. We have had discussions before. But to be fair, we have been married over a decade, and I finally reasoned to myself that I have been a faithful and considerate husband, I have given her a great life, I have allowed her to be her own person and realize her potential. What the hell am I so scared of? If I can't talk to my own wife, then who in the world can I talk to?

  It affects her socially. JW's are nosy. No one really cares about HOW I am. I was an elder in this congo for years, had book study at my house for most of those years, every one knows where I live. And her concern was not for my everlasting life, which was quite telling to me and made me a little sad, instead: but what do I tell the friends? I'm glad I tossed the Medical Directive in the shredder a couple of months ago.
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  Jws act like they don't remember their past teachings

  by Blindbutnowisee in

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  two jws came knocking to my door.

  instead of ingnoring the knock, i decided to answer.

  with fixed smiles on their faces, one of the ladys offer me a flyer concerning the district convention.

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  zack

  I think they use that pen light from Men in Black.

  Just gather 'round and look at the light, that's right, brothers and sisters, look at the light: the NEW LIGHT.
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  Just got back from the Public Talk/WT study......very disappointed

  by R.F. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i finally went back to the sunday meeting after missing it for over a month.

  i've been to the tms/service meeting a couple of weeks ago by the way, but i've consistently missed the one for sunday.. i dreaded going, but i think i will go to the sunday meetings every couple of weeks for a while.

  between my dad and another factor, i think it will be best to go that route for a while.

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  I feel for you. I decided 4 months ago I wasn't going to another meeting or feild service or assemblies or any other JW related/sponsored thing. I don't even want to go to a barbecue, a picnic, or dinner if more than my close friends are going to be there. I have developed a phobia against bullshit, and since it is found in profuse quanitities around JW's, I just can't stand to be around them.

  It is GOOD TO BE FREE!
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  "But what do i tell the friends?"

  by zack in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so three weeks ago my wife and i had an emotional discussion wherein i finally told her that this religion was not the truth.

  there was much emotion, a chill has ensued in our relationship.

  (i haven't been to a meeting in 4 months now, and have not reported time in two months) i am sure many of you know the drill.. towards the end of our conversation, she asks: but what do i tell the friends when they ask about you?.

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  zack

  So three weeks ago my wife and I had an emotional discussion wherein I finally told her that this religion was not the truth. There was much emotion, a chill has ensued in our relationship.(I haven't been to a meeting in 4 months now, and have not reported time in two months) I am sure many of you know the drill.

  Towards the end of our conversation, she asks: But what do i tell the friends when they ask about you?

  My reply: Just tell them I'm happier than ever.

  My situation with my wife aside (she liked that I was an elder, etc...), don't JW's just want the world to fall down on your head to prove them right?
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  Were Wrong Motives Ever Imputed to You?

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello all, mr. flipper again.

  when i was a witness, a lot of times i saw situations come up where someone was trying to be helpful to someone in need either spiritually, financially, emotionally or otherwise, and people would try to find fault with the good individual for helping someone.

  what causes people to do that to others, jealousy of their goodness or what?

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  zack

  This sounds less like imputing wrong motives (God, that is such Witness-speak!) amd more like venal jealously and slander.

  Actually, I think people like that should have their tongues cut out. All under a doctor's care, of course.

  In answer to your question, YES. I was a Witness, after all.
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  The End of Faith- How Sam Harris defined it.

  by nvrgnbk in

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  2. friends

  clearly, it must be possible to bring reason, spirituality, and ethics together in our thinking about the world.

  this would be the beginning of a rational approach to our deepest personal concerns.

  it would also be the end of faith.-.

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  zack

  Isn't faith based on reason? If it isn't, then it's zealotry, fanaticism. And how can you have spirituality without the Greatest of all spirits?

  Just asking.