Posts by zack

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MEDIA BLITZ - JW BLOOD & SEXTUPLETS

by skeeter1 in

while the va tech shootings have made top billing, the jw blood doctrine is also a top story in canada.

canada press announces that the sextuplet parents & jw lawyers are in court, fighting for the right of the parents to be granted a hearing before the children were taken away.

ex-jws protesting outside the courthouse appear in the paper, a nice picture too.

zack

I agree that parents should have a right to a hearing before the state takes away their children for any reason. However, in my lifetime, I have not seen the State-- whether Great Briatan,

Canada, or US---- use this authority willy nilly. In fact, agencies are actually loathe to seperate a child from his biological parents and do so only under extreme circumstances.

It seems to me that a hearing, if granted, could bring out into the open the history of this blood ban. It may also help untangle the web they, WTS Legal Department, weaves when

it calls a blood transfusion a medical treatment and asserts that JW's have a right to refuse objectionable "medical treatment" but stay away from saying the objection is

based, actually, on doctrinal religious grounds, not medical and sceintific ones.

The prohibition is RELIGIOUS. But they do not want the parents to say so becuase it then makes JW's look like wackos. Let your kids die for a RELIGION? Sounds like child sacrifice

to me. Object to a "dangerous" medical procedure? That sound more like sound parenting.

These guys cover all the angles.

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Any current Good Standing JW, posting here?

by NotaNess in

i was wondering if there are any current regular posters here that are still active , but are mentally inactive and don't believe all the bull anymore, and are just going through the motions to keep their life with friends and family together.. i realize this might be a posting that will probably get 0 replies, but.......

zack

Still in good standing but fading fast.

Zack

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Frederick Franz's Words

by jakes in

jw
friends

addressing a large audience in 1976,president franz asked, ' do you know why nothing happened in 1975?

it was because you expected something to happen.'.

i would have stood up walked right out if i was present.. jakes.

zack

They are horrible individuals. All of them. Franz, Rutherford, Henshell, Knorr, the whole lot.

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Does anyone else see a pattern?

by TD in

it seems to me that a repeating pattern with jw's is unfolding yet again.

i wonder if anybody else can "see" the same thing, or am i just imaginiing things?.

here's the scenario:.

zack

I think John Barr is not as dominant a member. I beleive Loesch is the more prominent member, at the moment. As to the topic, you do notice how

the whole 1935 thing got changed--- this was a result of the young guys on the GB.

I have to think that on some level the newer GB members have to realize what a crock of shi* they inherited from Freddy and the Judge. The problem is, as was mentioned,

they find out the "real" score in a few years---- self-preservation, and nothing gets done to bring them into conformity with truth.

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My JW sister wants her mom and siblings to pay for HER retirement!

by Who are you? in

jw
friends

kind of long...thanks in advance for letting me vent!.

my sister has been a jw since 1974. she's been waiting for the end of this "system of things" since the fall of 1975. she never went to college.

she has had probably 80 or more jobs since 1974. she has no retirement savings.

zack

Are you sure she's your sister and not another brother? I mean, she's got balls, don't you think?

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Christians could and did. Can JWs? Do they?

by ANewLeif in

there are many things the bible says christians could do and things the bible describes christians doing that, according to their doctrine, jws can't do.. christians could talk directly to jesus.

(acts 7:54-60; acts 9:3-16) can you?

christians could decide for themselves which days they chose to observe without any fear of religious retribution.

zack

At the well, Jesus told the Samaritan woman that God wants those who worhsip Him with spirit and with truth.

So, one cannot adhere to the tenets of a religion which are by their very nature UNTRUE, and worship God with Truth. One cannot substitute

one's will with the will of a collective or a representative of a collective, and be worshippong God with spirit. JW's, therefore, cannot and do not

worhsip God with Spirit and Truth and therefore cannot be Christians.

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Chance that WT drops blood issue?

by Gayle in

do you think wt will drop blood tranfusion issue altogether?

will it, say within ten years?

any predictions?

zack

Yes, they'll do it, for the reasons Garybuss and Blondie stated. They'll just redefine what blood is, and that will be that.

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special talk 15.3.07 - what is official position on earthquakes?

by jeanV in

there is a lot of 1914, how jw's (then known as bible studends) anticipated it was a marked year.

ever since things are going bad, wars, wars and wars, food shortages, pestilences and earthquakes.

here the speaker mentions that earthquakes have increased tremendously since 1914. oh oh oh where did he get it?

zack

While sitting at the KH listening to this great "sign" of the end, I thought:

If earthquakes are so ubiquitous, how many people in this congregation know someone who was killed by one?

And how many know someone killed in a car wreck? That one I could answer: everyone knew at least one because there have been 6 deaths over the years at this cong.

due to traffic accidents WHILE IN SERVICE! Maybe car wrecks should be a sign of the end?

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X-Wife Got Married Yesterday........Our Son is Shunned Today!

by new boy in

my wife left me 5 years ago when i left the jehovah's witnesses.

she got remarried saturday to one of "our" old jehovah's witness friends jay .

jay's wife, judy died 6 months ago of cancer.

zack

I cannot blame your friend for wanting to be remarried. Likely, if his wife died of cancer, it may have been an illness which she suffered with

for many years. I have a friend who recently lost his wife to cancer. On and off, she spent the last eight years of her life in clinics, hospitals, chemo, etc...

I am sure there was a loss of marital intimacy as they both fought for health and survival. So, I can understand his wanting to remarry and I won't

throw the first stone, as tacky as his behavior may be. Your ex-wife, on the other hand, is a different issue. I think it is reprehensible to talk to your kids in private and shun them in public.

Well, I think shunning them at anytime is reprehensible, but she lacks the consistency of her convictions, which smelleth of hypocrisy. At least you know the

truth now, Newboy. All the best, sir.

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3.9% interest

by indahsempurna in

does anyone else find it terrible that the society is charging interest for congregations to build kingdom halls????

why the hell are people putting money in the "special" box marked kingdom hall fund??

my boyfriend who already hates the witnesses found this absolutely horrible.

zack

They charge between 3 and 5 percent interest. The interest is very practical. I do not see that as hypocritical. It usually runs at inflation or just above. That way

inflation does not deplete the value of the fund. In my experience, there was never a stampede to contribute to the KH Building Fund.