a jw on another site posted this today:.
the verdict is in!
almost all of the anti-jehovah's witness organization have been completely quiet about the arrest and detention of the person in denmark who posted on the "yourselves and to all of the flock", and the society's other secret documents, in violation of international copyright laws.
To reply to Andyman:
It seems that they're proclaiming that the WT society has become a successful friend of the world - the courts give their blessing.
Well, if man's law says I am compelled to give support to lies, then the man's law comes secondary to me.
Bang
-some of you might recognize that caption as the title to one of merle and willie's biggest hits but this is not about drugs and alcohol but about something many of us here hold in common.. i have read many reasons stated here for those who have left the organization either formally (through df'ing or da'ing) and those that are still technically in but mentally out.
some (quite a few as i expected) have left to pursue lifestyles inconsistent with teachings which they evidently once held dear (they were questioned about those beliefs prior to baptism) but have now abandoned.
that reasoning is absurd but it makes good sense to the rank and file.
<< I do so wish that it had been real. >>
Don't be sad, He is real, it's just that the WT society stumbled across something without holding the key, and fears take hold, as you know. Seek Him in the poor, He's there waiting, meek, like His Father, not haughty. You know before they received the Spirit into their 'house', it was asked of the apostles, "why do you stand looking into heaven?"
There's a parable I particularly like that shows how we are to pray and not lose heart. <"In a certain city there was a judge who neither feared God nor regarded man; and there was a widow in that city who kept coming to him and saying, 'Vindicate me against my adversary.' For a while he refused; but afterward he said to himself, 'Though I neither fear God nor regard man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will vindicate her, or she will wear me out by her continual coming.'" And the Lord said, "Hear what the unrighteous judge says. And will not God vindicate his elect, who cry to him day and night? Will he delay long over them? I tell you, he will vindicate them speedily. Nevertheless, when the Son of man comes, will he find faith on earth?">
The teaching is often viewed as vengeance and all the badies copping it; but certain fears alter our perception of God - He is kind and meek.
"A certain person, proud, had a conscience (unjust judge) that didn't really think about God or have regard for others. His soul (the widow), once the spouse of the Holy Spirit, would prompt his conscience to subdue his flesh (the adversary), and it was due to the bother of his soul that he did. Now, if your own conscience is prepared to help you out by continual asking, how much more is God going to help you do what is right if you ask Him, and quickly.
Nevertheless, will He find faith?
Bang
it seems to me this site is full of anti jehovah's witness members.its easy to point out weaknesses of others or the organization they represent.jehovah's witnesses do often with other religions.if you all have decided that jehovah's witnesses are bad people or that the organization is false,then which one is the true religion?which religion teaches the correct doctrines?which religion represents gods truth?this question is for anyone.i'm asking this question with sincerity.
True religion is to help the needy and afflicted, bridle one's tongue and to stay away from the desires of pride and material gains for oneself. (see James)
Seek Christ in the poor.
Bang
i should get alot of different oppinions here but that is what i want.
i was looking up who should partake of the bread and wine, and who should conduct bible studies.. in the bible, jesus does the last supper with his apostles.
some people call them saints now or annointed ones.
serenaj92 writes:
<< Don't the elders/ministerial servants get to put time in for every quick build, talks at the hall, paperwork for the hall, and time spent in meetings? I hardly ever see them out in actual service and I've wondered why they get so much time. >>
Bang inquires:
What does it mean to 'get time' or 'get to put time in'?
Bang writes:
With the bread and wine - the disciples received Christ, and they still do today. As for who should partake - His disciples, and those who would be. I've heard that approaching the Lord's table is in a way also coming to judgement - afterward, some proceed toward darkness.
Who then should conduct Bible studies - I suppose the same.
Bang
do not give up in doing what is fine.
well, do not give up!
things?.
Dungbeetle writes:
<< HUH? >>
Bang replies:
As you were on a study of Abraham, I thought I should point out that the child produced by personal effort (the WT method of holiness) should not be mocking the child that comes by promise (through grace).
You would know that it is a fundamental precept of the WT society to mock the ways of Christendom as not being as 'good' as theirs, but being no better 'at play'. An aversion to understanding this is demonstrated with Cain, and he proceeded much further down the road after considering his sacrifice more worthy.
Bang
the bible says that a prophet who predicts something that does not occur is speaking words that the lord did not speak, but that is exactly what jesus did, if you can believe the author of mark.
here are the relevant verses:.
"when a prophet speaks in the name of the lord, if the word does not come about or come true, that is a word which the lord did not speak;" (deuteronomy 18:22).
Joseph writes:
<< It is unimaginable that an all-knowing god would think that anyone would believe that the words "drink any deadly thing" actually meant "be exposed to other faiths." >>
Bang responds.
What was Jesus saying to the woman at the well when he said, "but whoever drinks the water that I give him...."?
Those who believe In Him can 'drink' other drinks; others are deadly because "I am the Way". They won't be harmed by it - and I know it to be so.
Bang
jehovah is the creator and deliverer of his people.. this is recognized and stated in his forth commandment.. ex20:8-11;de5:15. the sabbath was observed before the.
ten commandments ex16:23. the principle was introduced .
in the garden of eden ge 2:2,3. apparently the knowledge.
They have a lot to say for themselves.
Bang
the bible says that a prophet who predicts something that does not occur is speaking words that the lord did not speak, but that is exactly what jesus did, if you can believe the author of mark.
here are the relevant verses:.
"when a prophet speaks in the name of the lord, if the word does not come about or come true, that is a word which the lord did not speak;" (deuteronomy 18:22).
Hi Joseph,
Surely you've considered that disciples who believe In Him can 'drink' the water of a different doctrine without harm to themselves.
Bang
i met a bunch of witnesses from my old congregation on a ferry to seattle a month ago.
i tried avoiding them but they spotted me and their was no escape.
they all seemed to be very jovial and asked me if i was going to the meetings.
Pureheart writes:
<< Here in our congregation we were devastated over the whole mess. We knew several of the victims. Our hearts went out to them and their families. We help as much as possible and when we can >>
Bang asks,
Why are you a JW?
Bang
why is it in the bible that it does say that jesus said to take the bread and the wine in the last supper, but he doesn't say its restricted only to the 144,000 going to heaven?
he was talking to his apostles of course, so does that mean only the elders, and anointed should do this?
i have looked in the bible on who should and shouldn't do this and have found nothing.
It has been said that the 'virgins' haven't followed another god.
It seems that as things are the JWs don't fit into that category.
Bang
