so did the wtbts call jehovah a liar?.
"jehovah's prophetic word through jesus christ is: 'this generation [of 1914] will by no means pass away until all things occur.
' (luke 21:32) and jehovah, who is the source of inspired and unfailing prophecy, will bring about the fulfillment.".
..he transmits to his anointed ones the necessary information, and if the instructions sent out are wrong, then the responsibility is to the Lord and not to the local service committee. WT May 15, 1937 page 153, paragraph 31
Shows just how deep the sin goes.
just like any commercial enterprise, the wt is out to hock it's wares.
just like the old fuller brush or watkins salesperson, the wt sends people door to door to pitch it's religion, a religion that should be pitched into file 13, that is.. the only satisfaction a 'hovah gets doing this job is when somebody is dumb enough to "buy" the religion.
unlike fuller brush or watkins, which both sold good and usable products, the wts sells bullshit religion that often times will come back to bite the "buyer" in the ass.
It surely is non-prophet litter-at-ya.
Bang
i notice members on this board keeps telling me to re-read revelation chapter 21 verse 1 & 2?
let's get something str now, nobody on the earth can know everything & understand everything from the bible 100%, i have a hard time understand revelation, examples: the four horsemen, gog & ma'-gog?
<------i'm sorry, but i dont get it... anyway what's the deal with revelation chapter 21 verse 2?
Yeah, I'd say you missed the gist of verse 1 & 2.
Being in the org an all though, you probably should check v27.
But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor any one who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lambs book of life.
I don't think the dubs are entering; haven't seen it happening anyway.
Bang
dear brother bowen:.
i have not yet seen the dateline program.
however, i have set my vct to record it this evening, when i will be at the book study.
Jehovah is no longer blessing their efforts to shield pedophiles
Like he used to?
And always talk about the RCC - comparing yourself thoughtfully to the babylon beast thingy is sure to help your image in front of the R & F.
Bang
anybody else real excited about the future?
well the new heaven dont really concern me<-------144,000, we might finally get to see the thrones in the clouds, and a new earth<------rest of mankind/paradise .
the new earth will be hella fun, we get to play and hang out with all the animals, eat lot's of fruit, and lived in peace, and i wanna talk to noah(question for him, hehe) and i wanna ask christ or god, either one, can you give me powers, so i can fly in the heavens .
My dad used to tell this joke about what happens if you go to hell. The answer was you'd be too busy shaking hands.
The inference being that, who would want to go with them, i.e. the church whitemen (oh he's scottish - that's just another saying).
Bang
dubs are always looking for an angle to make money.their probably no worse than anybody else,but they do like to preach against materialism while chasing the illusive dollar.alot of times its some form of pyramid scheme.amway for one,or the triple charge system(owned and operated by some dubs from califonia)then theres the out and out pyramid scheme.you bring in people who give the pyramid $500.00,after bringing in so many people the guy at the top get`s a $17,000.00 payout,and is free to start again at the bottem of the pyramid.i`ve known a few dubs who have collected their 17grand.the pyramid eventually burns out,and the people at the bottem are left holding the bag(no payout).they lose the money they couldn`t afford to spend to begin with.there are some dubs though,that make a good living at this.what are some of the get rich schemes you`ve witnessed(pun intended)in dubland?...outlaw
My wife knows little if anything of JWs or their doctrine, but when asked if she knew about them she replied, "I thought they were like the Amway of religions."
Bang
we always hear the muslims such as osama bin laden, prayed for september 11, and always say more destruction will come to america and jews "god willing" but god is not willing, so besides for the devil, why does their prayers come true for them?
He's just a rich boy that hates the way America infiltrates other culture with "business deals". The west continually use laws etc., in the name of decency and the common good, to influence other culture.
Well, the rich boy managed to get a bit of an act together with some muslim fundies. I didn't see Georgy the Christian give Osama some more buildings, but he's aparantly a fair dinkum Christian. Didn't he say "we're good, they're bad" - I'd be reluctant to be having him round for a barby after that display; and Osama, gee - pickin on civilians he doesn't even know.
I think the muslims are just praying against the Americans so they can get Jerusalem for themselves, and also for them to keep that macdonalds and stuff to themselves.
Bang
just how angery are you?.
how badly has the jw experience affected you?.
at the moment i'm very angery at the organisation.. why?.
This bit seems to descibe the situation.
"do not do according to their works; for they say, and do not do. For they bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers. But all their works they do to be seen by men."
Even if helping, is it with one of their fingers?
Somehow I don't think so.
Put it in the letter - they seem to listen to Bible things in preference to their own naturally given knowledge of decency (especially bits that have an easily read message).
Bang
can anyone answer a serious question?
since jws set so much store by bible study etc., i was wondering how they explain away john chapter 3. specifically where jesus tells nicodemus you have to be born again by the spirit of god in order to enter the kingdom of heaven.
while i'm here i would also like to know about eph 2:5,6. it seems to me they work like trojans in order to attain a place in paradise- but this verse clearly states we are saved by god's grace and not our works.
Further,
The works that are not from faith, but from the context of earning, don't taste so good - being tainted with pride.
you will know them by their fruit - it's a taste test.
We can tell without actually tasting sometimes after knowing a bit about the tree - who tended to it, etc., but the best way is taste.
Trees can have no fruit, good fruit or bad fruit - and the taste test tells us about the tree. 'Good looking tree' does not necessarily mean 'good fruit', even if it's an indicator - and an odd looking tree can produce very nice (humble) fruit, rooted in good soil.
I'm sure that people who post here have tasted some sour fruit.
Bang
jehovahs witness prophetic failure is not simply a matter of failed dates.. there are a whole lot of other aspects to the prophetic expectation.. just with regards to "1975", two aspects immediately spring to mind.. the decline of world religion and the ensuing attack upon religion by the united nations.. both of these "prerequisites" to the 1975 armaggedon have now slipped into distant memory, and are now forgotten.
they are hardly mentioned any more in watchtowers.just to remind doubters what was said.... .
wt august 1, 1971:.
because the world is called a beast and the church
a woman. This then was the union of the woman and the beast which
is expressly forbidden in type. (Lev. 18:23. "It is confusion.") We
feel sure that we have the name Babylon properly applied
Confident stuff - you could even control lives with those notions.
I thought that the soul (woman) shouldn't submit to be joined to a beast (false god) such as the jws 'espouse'.
Not quite as grandiose a reading though.
Bang
