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Friends we are too unbalanced.

by sleepy in

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well sometimes we are.. look we have the knowledge and experience to help a lot of people.must of us have one time been jw's and understand how many think.so lets not put them off by being too negative.. when we were witnesses most of us were quite happy .

we tried to be good people , to put into practise principles that many people think are good.

we did this sometimes even when we didn't want to , because we thought god would hold us accountable and because we cared for people .

Bang

Unbalanced ?
You can help them, care about them, rebuke them, or whatever, but you can't truthfully say that they're ok and just a bit different.

I used to wonder what Christ meant when he said that the devil was a coward, I mean, first impression would be that he's one tough tough customer, real nasty dude - bit silly maybe, but coward, what about ?

He scared of God because he doesn't trust Him - talks to Him, even asks of Him, but he's in the dark believing a lie about Him - the lie being that God's really an asshole - that's the blasphemy, saying to yourself (or whoever else) that He's really an asshole - so then your never contrite, but at best only attrite - sorry for your loss, because you were actually trading.

There's a lot of underlying reasons that people 'speak against the Spirit', dubious intentions or past fears - and it's a chasm that people can't cross on their own. Likewise, knowing that He's not an asshole you can't just then go and believe that He is one. In the words of an American actor "once you've heard the truth everything else is just cheap whiskey". So people are either for Him or against Him.

What seems to be about the scariest part of the good news is perhaps the strongest medicine, and revealing. Paul was a blasphemer too, openly, telling people that God was an asshole, a seller of love. And it's the same with the WT society, they have been endeavoring to "nail Him down" because they don't trust His intentions toward people as being truly kind, they need proof of their own fate.

It's a difficult illness to cure, takes a lot of patience, and it rubs off. How many people do you trust after being in the org.?

Bang

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Attending WT meetings/functions

by Lee Elder in

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i've been inactive for over 4 years now but i'm still attached though - loosely.. i will occassionally attend a meeting or portion of an assembly or convention.. i get a mixed reception at these gatherings.

generally my experience has.

been that the larger the group, the more inclined i am to run into some who.

Bang

It's never nice to see people imprisoned by anything. The girl spoken of changed to a different type of prison - in many cases people would still rather suffer in their body than live a lie - I suppose that's what christianity is about.

It's natural to want to tell the truth to JWs seen to be suffering the dreaded woe of hypocrisy (leprosy - outward whiteness and the flesh appears to be living). But it seems that the success rate for permanently curing leprosy is perhaps not as good as other afflictions, so I imagine their will be heartache in the job.

Bang

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Yet Another Failed WT Prophecy

by metatron in

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during my many faithful years as a witless zombie, i used to.

wonder how the society could claim that the bible predicts.

stuff like pollution - by quoting rev.11 "bring to ruin those.

Bang

It's the true christian who is helping Christ to make a new earth, even now. Even the earth groans at the revealing of the sons of God, because they take care of it.

Who can deny that the true christian involves themselves with - social justice and helping the poor - and environmental considerations including not being greedy - making peace by becoming subject and also sacrificing their lives if necessary for the sake of others (rather than themselves) - and to mention it again, social justice.
Whoever denies this surely denies the Spirit of goodness inside, and the Light of mankind.

It's obvious the work of a christian includes helping to create a new earth. Creation was work for God. The WT society thinks it's someone else's job and God will just magic it, and of course kill us - and soon - when they salivate with excitement like dogs at news of a disaster they bring shame to humans.

Bang

23

Genesis Error: The Rainbow Covenant

by JosephAlward in

after the lord had drowned every living thing on the surface of the earth except noah and his family and the animals brought to the ark, he told noah that from that time forth there would be no more apocalyptic floods, and as a token of his good intentions the lord would create the rainbow:.

and god...spake unto noah, and to his sons with him, saying...i establish my covenant with you.... neither shall all flesh be cut off any more by the waters of a flood; neither shall there any more be a flood to destroy the earth.

and god said, this is the token of the covenant which i make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations: i do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

Bang

Joseph writes:

The Genesis author must have intended for his readers to believe that this rainbow was the first rainbow, otherwise it would have been nothing special.

No, that's misguided.
'This is the sign' explains to man the enduring presence of God - 'see this what I do and it is from beginning to the end, like myself, the Alpha and Omega.'

"I will set my bow in the clouds etc." assures man He is always there even though not always seen. The rainbow is special Because it has been and will be a sign of Light and water - the bow is not always seen by men at their whim.

"I will be with you always, to the end of the age"

Bang

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Doctrine Hangs By a Thread?

by metatron in

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friends

when i was in my twenties, i wondered "wow!

what would happen.

if all the annointed died off or couldn't run the organization.

Bang

To follow the WT is
- to call a man teacher
- to place trust in men instead of love
- to make them the complete head of you, i.e. your 'father'
- to go after those who say "we are the Way" and "the end is near"
- to go from house to house (and without the 'stave')
- to love neighbours differently than yourself
- to take on His name in vain, and so thereby suffer punishment
- to prepare beforehand what to say when delivered up
- to prefer animal sacrifice (rules) above kindness
- to withold worldly wealth (murder)
- to take away from and add to the meanings contained in revelation
- to seek to 'know' from a false prophet (lie to oneself)
- to admit the self-righteous yeast
- to despair of people
- to try and earn divinity (boast in his presence, though one can't)
- to go to lengths to make another proselyte
- to not give up worldly wealth, at least half, as He commanded
- to curse Jacob by saying that lying is good
- to .... I think I'm falling asleep here - I'll think of heaps in the morning

Bang

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144,00 A LITERAL NUMBER?

by Pureheart in

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hey yall,.

is 144,00 a literal number?.

(revelation 14:1-4) and i saw, and, look!

Bang

Is 144,00 a literal number?

Na.

Anyway, here's a very, very old notion for all the budding 'upper class' or whatever the name is to get their heads around.

** IT'S ACTUALLY THE KIDDIES !! **

They learn songs real well.
No defiling with women there, even in thought,
they really are virgins.
No lies happening there either, same.
And, their angels were always in the presence of God.

The slain innocent children - like in Bethlehem ?
Harp lessons sound like good fun.

Bang

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It could've been worse....

by SixofNine in

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we could've been stupid islamic fundies.

http://www.secularhumanism.org/wtc.htm#_ftn1

Bang

If eye for eye thinking is an option for them - well, they're not hypocrits.

Bang

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Showing Concern for the Poor - 50 Years ago

by Thirdson in

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sorry folks, it's that time of the month and this is looking back to the wise words of the watchtower 50 years ago.. since jesus said the poor would always be with us you can count on the watchtower to provide insight in to the real meaning of christianity: .

the charity drives in connection with thanksgiving, christmas and new year's day occur as regularly as the perennial monsoons.

in a downpour of editorial and oratorical tears the cry for money to help the poor goes out from press and pulpit, while on the relentless winds of advertising-by radio and television, billboard and poster, and by many tricky devices-the heart-touching appeal is carried to the public.

Bang

And I would reckon that He didn't feed them so that they'd stay and listen to Him. He'd do it because they were hungry, and so it should be with everyone.

The very idea of the WT society getting involved in 'charity' after being shamed enough scares me when it comes to rebuking them.

A rebuke can be wholesome thing - it's wise to be careful with things like that - remember to "be wise as serpents" and think ahead rationally.

Bang

8

Another Bible Oddity

by Yerusalyim in

joseph et al,.

what's the deal with jesus in mark 2:26 saying abiathar was high priest yet in 1 samuel 21:1 it's ahimelech who gives jesus the bread.

was jesus wrong, or is 1 samuel wrong?.

Bang

That makes sene.

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Matthew Twenty-four (Is Knocking at the Door)

by Yadirf in

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"matthew twenty-four (is knocking at the door)".

this was a song written and recorded by johnny cash in 1973, an artist that i admire to some extent.

(btw, anyone who likes jc's music can find the lyrics and chords to some of his music by clicking here ---> http://www.toptown.com/hp/66/jclyrics.htm.

Bang

Didn't he get off on bein' a baddy at the time, wearing black an' all?
Maybe the end of the world thing is like a power desire.

GOD LOVES ME, BUT HE HATES YOU