have come to chapter 8. i'm genuinely surprised with depth of arguments and clarity of thinking of it's author.
book definitely deserves 5 star rating.
i've read many different authors but i've gotta admit ray is among the top writers i've read so far.
I don't normally like reading that much but I read COC in about 3 days.
Gentile Times Reconsidered is very good to.
prophecor : I know what you mean.
When you think of all the indoctrination you recieved ( me born into, loyal till 37 years old ) I'm happy it only took about 5 years to totally recover and to see it for the cult that it is.
i thought of all the money i saved on not buying all the meeting clothes for my family, and it got me wondering about the reason why jw,s need to dress up for everything they do.
i think it must have all started because russell had that clothing store and this was a good way for him to have a cornered market.
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I thought of all the money I saved on not buying all the meeting clothes for my family, and it got me wondering about the reason why JW,s need to dress up for everything they do.
I think it must have all started because Russell had that clothing store and this was a good way for him to have a cornered market.
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i have a copy of may 1,1998 watchtower.
when i heard a few years ago about the witnesses believing that they were the locusts i thought it was just a rumour; that even for a jw org it was too far fetched.
a few weeks ago i read about it again on this site.
Page 144 of Rev. book makes this claim, 1988 though might be old light.
http://www.megspace.com/religion/museltof/1jws.html
This is a very good article on the subject, shows how foolish JW,s stance is.
strange no one came this year.
no elders, pioneers or anyone to invite me to the memorial.
i didn't go to the last 2 being that i haven't been to the meetings now for a few years.
So the idea that the Witnesses will answer questions (if you have questions), is another teaching only, not a practice. I'm glad my Witness relatives chose to shun and snub me. They reveled their true characters and they are people who are not up to the minimum standards required to associate with me.
I wrote questions down for my mom to answer: since she couldn't answer them she said "she'll find
out the answers from the elders". Thats been about a half year ago. I think witnesses like to live
in their little make believe world, it's to scary to live in the real world.
Haven't seen any dubs for years I don't have any friends from the JW's anymore
even though my best man in my wedding live about a mile from me.
I moved a year ago and haven't had any contact from dubs. I am faded and wonder do they forward
records to new hall or what? I moved about 10 miles from the old hall. Haven't had any door knockers?
i apologize if there is already a thread concerning this but the following article is intriguing: http://www.pressbox.co.uk/detailed/society/jehovah_s_witnesses_katrina_disaster_relief_fund_donation_or_profits__36046.html
Can witnesses put checks in the contribution boxes that state "money to be used for Katrina only"?
our good friend dan sydlik died today about 2 pm eastern time.
he was the last of the moderating forces on the gb.
lately he has had little influence among the ted (aka the boss) jaracz (head of the bethel cia - the service department) henchmen and loyalists.
Another analogy:
Who is more responsible Satan the Devil or Adam and Eve ?
One was a deciever the other was decieved.
There is no hope for the deciever, there is hope for the decieved.
I figured out what to do.
It's simple just use both names at the end of your prayer.
Now which one do you say first?
Reasoning pg. 218
Reasonably, then, the archangel Michael is Jesus Christ.
So the evidence indicates that the Son of God was known as Michael before he came to earth and is known also by that name since his return to heaven where he resides as the glorified spirit Son of God.
Lets be reasonable here, if Jesus aka michael the archangel, walk into a room and was introduced as Jesus everyone would bend there knees.
If Jesus walks into the same room and is introduced as Michael the archangel everyone just stands there.
what pile of b.s.
Also when he's on earth he only gets called Jesus in heaven it's Michael. Everywhere else in the bible when
names were changed they didn't flip flop back and forth to the new and old names did they?
Why not?
That is who Jesus is in heaven.
i began studying with the witnesses in 02 and was baptized in 04 but within months of baptism i stopped attending meetings.
my marriage was rocky at best before i studied (husband abusive) but after it just continued to get worse.
i had a baby daughter when i started and had my son while going to meetings and out in service as unbaptized publisher.
welcome
It helps to talk to other people who have the same thoughts.
It makes you realize your not crazy the religion is!!!
If it was the truth what were they so afraid I would learn?I love this question, witnesses will give you a nice blank stare if you ask them this.
