It's true about your picture Obie...for a minute there I thought I was on netmeeting lol.
Cool teeshirt idea!
Beck
howdy everyone,.
i am happy to announce the opening of my own apostate shopping site.
i believe it's the first of its kind on the internet.
It's true about your picture Obie...for a minute there I thought I was on netmeeting lol.
Cool teeshirt idea!
Beck
come on admit it, if you were brought up a witness you were dead scared that you were going to end up like the men you saw prowling the assembles and congregations looking for wives.. there would always be men and women in there 30's and 40 who had never had a boy or girl friend.. i used to know quite a few.. the horror of their lives shocks me.. now i not dissing anyone who has chosen not to marry that is their choice.but these people i know want to meet someone and get married.. but the bad news is that the older they get the harder it is to find a wife .what makes it worse is that the choice is so limited.. many of these grown men are even affraid of women .
why?.
because they are taught that even to look at a woman is to commit imorality let alone talk to one.. i knew a brother who had never had a girl friend , he was about 26 at the time.now a sister asks to go out with him so he accepts.quite soon she wants to hold his hand.. this brother now tells her off, for in the family book it says holding hands is only for people who are going to get married.. he doesn't go out with such a spiritually weak sister again.. what has the socity done to these peoples lives.. many people who were once happy teenagers hoping to meet the wife or husband of their dreams are now approaching 40 or even older and have never even had a girlfriend.theri only hope is the new system and i don't want to breack the news to them but its not coming.
LOL@butalbee
this was just forwarded to me.. (we need more comets to help take all of the stupid people away from among us!).
this comes from the branch in canada....... in england one of our blind brothers had a seeing-eye dog that would.
faithfully guide and take him to the meetings each week.
I thought the only stories they ever shared about dogs were the demon possessed ones who would do backward somersaults frothing at the mouth whenever the witnesses would call on the demon delving spiritualistic spooked out householder.
OR
What about the stories about the notoriously vicious dogs who would always bite postmen or passers by but would never bite the zealous pioneers....ooohhh....amazing!!!
Beck
i remember the andy griffith show (featuring the affable deputy fife) from the earliest times of my life.
it will be popular when my daughter is old and gray, no doubt.
but now... i'm beginning to wonder about me.... i find myself watching i love lucy whenever it's on, and i once hated... i say hated, the show.
What is the Ed Sullivan show? Is that like Jerry Springer?
come on admit it, if you were brought up a witness you were dead scared that you were going to end up like the men you saw prowling the assembles and congregations looking for wives.. there would always be men and women in there 30's and 40 who had never had a boy or girl friend.. i used to know quite a few.. the horror of their lives shocks me.. now i not dissing anyone who has chosen not to marry that is their choice.but these people i know want to meet someone and get married.. but the bad news is that the older they get the harder it is to find a wife .what makes it worse is that the choice is so limited.. many of these grown men are even affraid of women .
why?.
because they are taught that even to look at a woman is to commit imorality let alone talk to one.. i knew a brother who had never had a girl friend , he was about 26 at the time.now a sister asks to go out with him so he accepts.quite soon she wants to hold his hand.. this brother now tells her off, for in the family book it says holding hands is only for people who are going to get married.. he doesn't go out with such a spiritually weak sister again.. what has the socity done to these peoples lives.. many people who were once happy teenagers hoping to meet the wife or husband of their dreams are now approaching 40 or even older and have never even had a girlfriend.theri only hope is the new system and i don't want to breack the news to them but its not coming.
Hey Kep
I have an older brother who looks younger then me also....but he looks younger because he acts younger lol.
:o))
Tell your sis to email me...she sounds cool lol.
Beck
the name of the site, jehovas vittness.com?.
well sure we must have permission to say what we fell here, cant understan that ex say that this is ther site,.
havent they red the heading.
Happyman
I think you are very brave to be here in the first place...knowing how the organisation views web sites such as this. I also commend all of the JW's who admit to being a witness....it takes a fair bit of courage to say so on a forum such as this.
I'm rather new to this forum myself...but I get the feeling that some of you (JW) just like to argue the point...rather then actually try and convert our way of thinking...but if you are counting time for it...then good on ya! You will find a lot of ex witnesses like me...have been 'wronged' in some way or another...either by the organisation itself...the elders....or members of the congregation. I am here because it comforts me to know that there are other ex witnesses out there who come from a similar background to mine...and who have experienced the same 'wrongs' that I did. Some are angry...some are bitter...some are defensive...but keep in mind that we have all been 'wronged' in different ways or to different degrees.
Happyman...I think you and Fred Hall and other JW's provide a colourful aspect to this forum...and I enjoy reading everyone's views on things. I don't always agree with the reactions...but sometimes it is provoked!
I hope you enjoy the feedback and the comments shared with one and all.
Beck
i often wonder if jw`s on these sites consider them "apostate" especially with regards to many topics?
do you ignore topics that could possibly test your faith?
how do you not wonder about your religion with all the information that is available to you now that proves this sekt invalid?
VioletAnai
To admit when we have been wrong is indeed a fine thing. I admit that I was wrong...when I used to drag my children out of bed on a Saturday morning and force them into their witnessing clothes and then drag them from door to door in all kinds of weather..I was wrong. When I used to smirk at disfellowshipped ones who would pass me in the street...the adulterers...or the smokers...or the fornicators...I was wrong. When I used to judge my 'worldly' workmates for their language and cursing...or for their indulgence in alcohol or after work social sessions...I was wrong. When I used to chastise my children for humming christmas songs or for singing happy birthday...I was wrong. I could go on and on...but the point is...when the borg admits that they have been wrong...it is sometimes too late. For example...I have an 80 year old grandmother who was taught that she would never grow old and die...and NOW the borg has changed their views on the generation that saw 1914. And what about the blood issue...how many children and good decent people died because they refused to compromise their faith...and how many were disfellowshipped because they were weak and allowed their child to have a blood transfusion? I understand the borg has changed their views here also.
I can however understand your loyalty...I had it too at one time....but guess what??? I was wrong! You are right that JW are kind people....BUT....there are some kind people in all walks of life...and JW are usually only kind to their own...or to bible students like yourself. Believe me...I know only too well. I used to always do things or give to bible students....it was highly recommended...it was a form of 'witnessing' to them. Once that bible student failed to attend meetings or stopped studying...so did the kindness.
On the other hand...I have met genuinely kind people who have never been JW's...and who have no inclination towards the 'truth'...but they exercise loving kindness in a sincere way.
Regards
Beck
a sister who lived in a local cong was dying and so she decided to get ready for this by preparing all the food for her funeral.. she spent a lot of time baking cakes, quiches and making sandwiches etc and filled the freezer with these so that the brothers and sisters could remember her at the get together after the funeral talk.. would you have eaten anything?
i didnt.
or is it just me?
How bizarre...and I don't think I would have eaten it...I'd go for the fresh stuff lol.
I do believe in being prepared...but I don't think I'd go that far with it...but then again....most JWs I know are rather eccentric in their own way. Now that I look back...I don't think any I knew were all that 'normal'.
Beck
come on admit it, if you were brought up a witness you were dead scared that you were going to end up like the men you saw prowling the assembles and congregations looking for wives.. there would always be men and women in there 30's and 40 who had never had a boy or girl friend.. i used to know quite a few.. the horror of their lives shocks me.. now i not dissing anyone who has chosen not to marry that is their choice.but these people i know want to meet someone and get married.. but the bad news is that the older they get the harder it is to find a wife .what makes it worse is that the choice is so limited.. many of these grown men are even affraid of women .
why?.
because they are taught that even to look at a woman is to commit imorality let alone talk to one.. i knew a brother who had never had a girl friend , he was about 26 at the time.now a sister asks to go out with him so he accepts.quite soon she wants to hold his hand.. this brother now tells her off, for in the family book it says holding hands is only for people who are going to get married.. he doesn't go out with such a spiritually weak sister again.. what has the socity done to these peoples lives.. many people who were once happy teenagers hoping to meet the wife or husband of their dreams are now approaching 40 or even older and have never even had a girlfriend.theri only hope is the new system and i don't want to breack the news to them but its not coming.
Sleepy
What an absolutely hilarious thread...its so not fair...I have to wait until I get to work to see all the good stuff and when I do it's almost all over and you guys are at home sleeping.
And what I wanted to say has already been said by so many others...I had to smile when I read about all those single bros and sisters who were waiting or holding out for the 'perfect' spiritual partner. How true that is...I knew so many. My girls usually refer to one of the spinsters in the congregation we used to be in, whenever they want to tease their brother..."when you grow up you're going to marry so'n'so". In my old congregation it was usually sisters who remained unmarried...the single brothers were not so plentiful....and if ever a single brother were to visit he would soon get snapped up by those fearful of becoming old maids lol. One sister wanted to remain single because she was waiting for Elvis to be ressurrected.
Its so sad...but life is about choices...if only they knew what we know!!
Beck
first off i'd like to say how exstatic i am about finding this site.. finally i can get this off my chest, and to people who might understand.
well here goes.. my name is aaron and i am 25 years old.
i was born in and raised in san diego.
Hi Aaron
Thanks for sharing your story...I hope that you will find this forum as refreshing as I have. You will no doubt be nodding your head in agreement or smiling with amusement when you read different experiences or comments....but the best thing is knowing that there are others who have been thru a similar experience to your own. I am also new here ...and I am yet to get my story out but I am too busy reading everyone elses.
I was wondering if we were related to me because your mother sounds like mine lol. My siblings and I were annually dragged to assemblies and conventions and we NEVER missed a meeting....as my JW mother and grandmother felt that meeting attendance was the ultimate expression of their faith...BULLOCKS.
There is one thing to be gained from your experience growing up in the truth...and that is you know first hand what type of parent you DONT want to be. You can offer your own children (if and when you choose to have any) a life without fear...where they can sing xmas songs at school with the other kids...or happy birthday when they attend their friends birthday party. They can also look forward to pursuing a career or setting academic goals...and they can also look forward to dating and establishing friendships.
I hope you find your recovery easier...now that you have found this forum. I only wish that I had known about it when I first left.
All the best Aaron and thanks for sharing.
Beck