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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change

by Listener in

a change to their doctrine came from jackson.

this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.

but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.

blondie

Geoffrey Jackson, "we just don't know"...I guess he hasn't learned the WTS trick, "the bible does not say, but" and precedes to give an answer.

Would God permit nuclear war?

The Bible does not say. It does say that “fearful sights,” or terrifying events, would occur in our day. (Luke 21:11) An example of such events includes atomic bombs being dropped during the Second World War.

How long did it take Noah to build the ark?

The Bible does not say how long it took Noah to build the ark, but it seems that he spent several decades building it. Noah was more than 500 years old when his first son was born, and he was 600 years old when the Flood occurred.b—Genesis 5:32; 7:6.

God told Noah to build the ark after his three sons were grown and married, which could have taken some 50 or 60 years. (Genesis 6:14, 18) Based on this possibility, it seems reasonable to conclude that the ark could have taken 40 or 50 years to complete.

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Mike Rinder has died

by iloowy.goowy in

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just hearing about this now.

mike rinder has died.. he was a lifelong scientologist who broke away from the organization and became one of its biggest detractors.. rest in peace, mike!

thanks for what you did to expose cults.. https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/mike-rinder-obituary?pid=208313152.

blondie

I saw several of his and Leah Remini shows and how he helped people escape Scientology. I was sad to see he had died too. :(

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The abuse of JW org

by wozza in

awhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.

i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.

his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.

blondie

There are many ways the legal entities can use other than 2 eye witnesses to a crime; do it all the time for many types of crimes. The WTS does have access or authority to use this. But the the WTS thinks child sexual abuse is a sin not a crime. Watchtower May 2019 p. 12. "As Jehovah’s Witnesses, we view child sexual abuse as a gross sin and a wicked deed. "

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Lowrence**In German for you!

by Atlantis in

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i there are any more language requests, come back to this thread so that i do not clutter up the board.

( lowrence** german** s-147** announcements**2025** january.. https://pdfupload.io/docs/72d53637 .

petra!.

blondie

olagun, it was posted on here. I can't find it right now, maybe someone saved it and post it here or send a private message.

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News of fires out of control in California

by ballistic in

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hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.

these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.

malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..

blondie

Well, not yet. If they find jws that are suffering because of it and "handling" it with trust in their Jehovah, they might put something out there.

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Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?

by Anony Mous in

i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.

i just can't easily find reference to anything.

this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.

blondie

My mother wavered being a jw, not going to meetings for periods of time to appease my non-jw father and because she was worried about what he would be doing when she wasn't around. During that time me and my siblings were scared that we would die at Armaggedon, supposedly being on the brink of its arrival.

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The Greeks had a word for it, but the Watchtower didn't

by Nathan Natas in

i recall as though it was only 60 years ago, sitting in the kingdom hall on those horrible chairs, learning of the four forms of love: agape, philia, storge and eros.. the watchtower never mentioned pragma.. pragma: this is a committed, compassionate love that often grows as two partners continue to cherish and care for each other.

this type of love is associated with being together for a long time.

in some cases, the passion of eros can grow into pragma over time, this forging a lasting bond.. i think i know why; the watchtower isn't into committed, compassionate, cherishing and caring, are they?.

blondie

Anony Mous, sounds like a difficult research assignment. I'm not into that and I felt when the WTS used the Greek words and assigning their own definition to it, was raising themselves above the rank and file. In the bible what is written about Jesus (a real person or not) shows he did not use high-sounding words, but made the concepts easier to understand. You are right, I do believe the WTS stopped doing this for 2 reasons 1) encouraged some jws do further research which lead them to eye-opening info 2) even jws now can't grasp it, just accept whatever the WTS says is valid. They do the same with quotes from "experts" outside the WTS, not naming the person and their real credentials and not saying what secular publication it came from. About all you can do is put the quote in quote marks and search on Google for that information.

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Do children still get destroyed at Armageddon?

by Anony Mous in

i know back in the day, that was taught, that if the parents were going to be destroyed, so would the children.

i just can't easily find reference to anything.

this thinking has been used to justify some egregious behavior towards children and their parents such as exclusion of children from jw family - why worry, the end is near, all will work itself out then - the end didn't come though.

blondie

https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/growing-up-a-jehovahs-witness.php

At Armageddon, even children will die with their parents.

“... at Armageddon ... parents will be held accountable for their children, and children will suffer for the failure of their parents.” - Watchtower 1968 Feb 1 pp.83-84

Image source: Enjoy Life 1982 p.28

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The Greeks had a word for it, but the Watchtower didn't

by Nathan Natas in

i recall as though it was only 60 years ago, sitting in the kingdom hall on those horrible chairs, learning of the four forms of love: agape, philia, storge and eros.. the watchtower never mentioned pragma.. pragma: this is a committed, compassionate love that often grows as two partners continue to cherish and care for each other.

this type of love is associated with being together for a long time.

in some cases, the passion of eros can grow into pragma over time, this forging a lasting bond.. i think i know why; the watchtower isn't into committed, compassionate, cherishing and caring, are they?.

blondie

I noticed some time ago that the WTS no longer shares the exact Greek word they mention. Once the WTS prided itself on showing their Greek knowledge by using the exact term often. Started long ago, dumbing down? For example e'ros has been replaced with "romantic love."

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Beliefs clarified - A big fat WTF for 2025

by ukpimo in

jehovah’s witnesses have an official page for clarified beliefs they encourage elders, ministerial servants, regular pioneers, as well as all the rest of the elite, to keep up to date with:.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174.

2025 has a curious clarification:.

blondie

Yes, if you don't want someone outside your marriage to know what is going on in your marriage, don't share that with them. Many jws take it very seriously to report other jws based on that person's wild idea that it is wrong and goes to the the elders and report you. Make sure that whatever happens is mutually agreed upon between husband and wife also Unless one spouse reports the other spouse...