Gumby, maybe you can let sleeping dogs lie for the rest of your life and that works for you, but not all of us want to live our lives never being honest with our mates. It can still be done with compassion and understanding but it's such a huge part of a person's outlook on life to leave undiscussed with your lifemate.
Most men lead lives of quiet desperation and go to the grave with the song still in them.
Henry David Thoreau
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Well, my wife flipped out.
by rassillon ini hope i don't go too long with this.... last night my wife and i were talking about her day in service.
we talked about several things of little consequence and then i made mention of a point out of the reasoning book to underscore the importance of our need to be well versed in the facts that support our beliefs.
said point is on 416 of the rs book.
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Moscow Police detains Jehovahs Witnesses during the Memorial
by Rado Vleugel inthey burst in at the height of the service, when the symbols were being passed, kanin, the spokesman of the jehovahs witnesses in russia said, referring to the bread and wine used to symbolize jesus christs body and blood.
they wouldnt even allow them to finish the ceremony.
there was nothing secretive going on there.
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I think the Russian government would be further ahead to provide cheap Internet access for these people . Education is the only way to keep their numbers down .
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I guess I'm slow , how is this damning?
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and your point is ?
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OK, OK, I'm doin it!!!! I need questions!
by WLG ini'm going to the meeting on sunday, i'm over 1000 miles away from anyone who knows me and i have a goattee, what do i do?
i'm planning to be a naive "interested one" with hard questions.
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Tell them you recently found out that you are a Hemopheliac, and you are hoping to find out if God loves you....
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More of Mormon similarities...
by ringo5 ingot this post from an ex-mormon website and the similarities to the jw way of thinking are always enlightening.
i've got lots of thoughts.
there are lots of problems with mormonism, and in response mormons have developed a number of responses to "explain" them.
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Shallow i know but can someone explain to me the reasoning behind having holy underwear?
Also they must wear these are the rest of their lives [earthly lives] and they represent the garment given to Adam in the garden of Eden.
Really just pagan folklore being passed off as divine instruction that adds to the mystery that appeals to people I suppose....
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More of Mormon similarities...
by ringo5 ingot this post from an ex-mormon website and the similarities to the jw way of thinking are always enlightening.
i've got lots of thoughts.
there are lots of problems with mormonism, and in response mormons have developed a number of responses to "explain" them.
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I don't what Mormons you hang around with, but in all the years I've know many mormons, I've never heard even one of those seven listed. I've got Mormon friends and I know one active JW (and the experiences of dozens of EXs on this site), and let me tell you, the Mormons are NOTHING like the active dubs. Wacky doctrine, maybe....but as people (in general) you couldn't ask for anyone more genuine.
Sorry, I could have mentioned that this Mormon friend of mine is the most honest, trustworthy, friendly guy I know. HOWEVER, by your own admission, THEY HAVE WACKY BELIEFS (perhaps even wackier than JW's).
Where did they get these wacky beliefs? Did my friend or your friends come up with these beliefs on their own? I'd really question my friends sanity if he came up with the idea of baptizing himself again and again for dead relatives. Or the idea that that they need to wear special white underwear to protect them from physical harm and from Satan. But alas it was from a "divine" source, a prophet no less. Most here would agree that otherwise intelligent people can be "brainwashed" when god or the divine is involved and allow themselves to have their own reasoning powers manipulated by that same "divine" source.
That "divine" source uses the same form of pleading to keep their members in line as the WTS does for the witnesses. This was the point of the post. Perhaps your mormon friends might treat you differently if you yourself were a mormon at one point and asked the same questions about the authority of the "prophet" as you had the WTS? This is not to slam Mormons so much as it is to point out they use same false reasoning when it comes to defending their beliefs and leaders. Have you never gone to one of the many ex-mormon sites? The parallels seem obvious. I'd be curious to know if you've ever tried really questioning the validity of their beliefs? See how long you can do that before you'll hear them use a form of this- "When the Prophet speaks the debate is over"... -
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More of Mormon similarities...
by ringo5 ingot this post from an ex-mormon website and the similarities to the jw way of thinking are always enlightening.
i've got lots of thoughts.
there are lots of problems with mormonism, and in response mormons have developed a number of responses to "explain" them.
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Got this post from an ex-mormon website and the similarities to the JW way of thinking are always enlightening.
http://www.lds-mormon.com/explain.shtml
I am thinking about posing these questions to my dub mother under the pretense that my Mormon friend at work has used versions of them in our discussions. Well he hasn't really, but he was probably thinking them.... -
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An Irishman named O'Malley went to his doctor after a long illness. The doctor sighed and looked O'Malley in the eye and said, "I've
some bad news for you. You have cancer, and it can't be cured. You'd best put your affairs in order."
to compose himself and walk from the doctor's office into the waiting
room, where his son was waiting.
"Well son, we Irish celebrate when things are good, and we celebrate when things don't go well. In this case, things aren't so well. I have cancer. Let's head to the pub and have a few pints."
After 3 or 4 pints the two were feeling a little less somber..
There were some laughs and some more beers. They were eventually
approached by some of O'Malley's friends, who were curious as to
what the two were celebrating.
O'Malley told them they were drinking to his impending end. He
told his friends, "I have been diagnosed with AIDS."
The friends gave O'Malley their condolences, and they had a
couple of more beers. After the friends left, O'Malley's son leaned
over and whispered his confusion.
"Dad, I thought you told me that you were dying of cancer, and
you just told your friends that you were dying of AIDS!"
O'Malley said, "I don't want any of them sleeping with your
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The Bible seems to show that Jehovah chooses bad leaders
by free2beme ini was watching this history channel production, and it was talking about israel and their kings.
it mentioned how saul was a bad king, how david was a king who let lust and greed take him over.
plus, we know moses made a big enough mistake to not be allowed into the promise land and then we also see jesus bad taste in followers with the judas incident.
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What do I see is that Bible is one unique book which shows that God is with those who are not brightest of this world.
I certainly understand why you came to that conclusion! :)