Ladonna.....very true. Carrying the hurt around does more harm to the victim than anyone else.
Boozy
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EXPLORER-Hatred, Hurt, and Forgiveness
by BoozeRunner inexplorer spoke about ex-jw's hating jw's and spoke about forgiveness.. i dug up an article from the 12/1/97 watchtower.. in paragraph 15, under the sub-heading, when it seems impossible to forgive, the article stated this:.
what, though, if others sin against us in a way that inflicts the deepest of wounds, and yet there is no acknowledgement of the sin, no repentance, and no apology on the part of the offender?
(proverbs 28:13) the scriptures clearly indicate that jehovah does not forgive unrepentant, hardened sinners.
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My Eldest
by TR inthis is my eldest daughter, angie.
she's 17, will be a senior in high school this fall, but is in college.
she's an honor student.
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All I can say is...If I ever have a daughter, there will be a stack of these next to a drop box outside of my house.
APPLICATION FOR PERMISSION TO DATE MY DAUGHTER NOTE:
This application will be incomplete and rejected unless accompanied by a
complete financial statement job history, lineage, and current medical report
from your doctor.
1. NAME _______________________________ DATE OF BIRTH ________________
2. HEIGHT ____________________ WEIGHT __________ I.Q _______ G.P.A.______
3. SOCIAL SECURITY # _____________ DRIVERS LICENSE # __________________
4. BOY SCOUT RANK____________________________________________________
5. HOME ADDRESS _________________ CITY/STATE ___________ ZIP _________
6. Do you have one MALE and one FEMALE parent?___________________________ If
No., EXPLAIN ___________________________________________________
7. Number of years your parents have been married
____________________________
8. Do you own a van? ______ A truck with oversized tires? ______ A waterbed?
_______ Do you have an earring, nose ring, or belly button ring? A
tattoo_________________ (If "yes" to any of #8, discontinue application and
leave premises )
9. In 50 words or less, what does "LATE" mean to you?____________________
_______________________________________________________________________
10. In 50 words or lest, what does "DON'T TOUCH MY DAUGHTER" mean to you?
_________________________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________________
11. In 50 words or less, what does 'ABSTINENCE" mean to you?
_____________________________________________________________________
12. Church you attend _____________ How often do you attend
__________________
13. When would be the best time to interview your father, mother and
priest/rabbi/minister? __________
14. Answer by filling in the blank: please answer freely. ALL answers are
confidential (That means I won't tell anyone-ever-I promise.)
a) If I were shot the last place on my body I would want wounded is ________
b) If I were beaten, the last bone I would want broken is my ________________
c) A woman's place is in the ________________________________________
d) The one thing I hope this application does not ask me about is
_____________
e) When I first meet a girl, the first thing I notice about her is her
______________
( NOTE: If your answer begins with "T" or "A", discontinue. Leave premises
keeping your head low and running in a serpentine fashion is advised.)
15. What do you want to be IF you grow up? __________________________________
I SWEAR THAT ALL INFORMATION SUPPLIED ABOVE IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST
OF MY KNOWLEDGE UNDER PENALTY OF DEATH, DISMEMBERMENT, NATIVE AMERICAN ANT
TORTURE, ELECTROCUTION, CHINESE WATER TORTURE, RED HOT POKERS, AND HILLARY
CLINTON KISS TORTURE.
________________________________________ Signature ( That means your name,
moron)
Thank you for your interest Please allow four to six years for processing.
You will be notified in writing you are approved. Please do not try to call
or write (since you probably can't and it would cause you injury.) if your
application is rejected, you will be notified by two gentlemen wearing white
ties and carrying violin cases. (You might want to watch your back)LOLOLOLOL,
Boozybtw....LaDonna, theres gun laws in some states? LoL
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larc....THANK GOODNESS!!
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EXPLORER-Hatred, Hurt, and Forgiveness
by BoozeRunner inexplorer spoke about ex-jw's hating jw's and spoke about forgiveness.. i dug up an article from the 12/1/97 watchtower.. in paragraph 15, under the sub-heading, when it seems impossible to forgive, the article stated this:.
what, though, if others sin against us in a way that inflicts the deepest of wounds, and yet there is no acknowledgement of the sin, no repentance, and no apology on the part of the offender?
(proverbs 28:13) the scriptures clearly indicate that jehovah does not forgive unrepentant, hardened sinners.
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Quester, excellent points!
The article also brought out that apologoes may NEVER come, as it was speaking of very malicious acts.
So, many here are venting, and helping others thru trauma as well.
This forum helps many to get thru the hurt and move on.
As I stated in my original post, many JW's only see the emotional output from injured ones, and THAT is what they attack.
Boozy
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My Eldest
by TR inthis is my eldest daughter, angie.
she's 17, will be a senior in high school this fall, but is in college.
she's an honor student.
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TR, you reproduce well. :-)
Boozy
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EXPLORER-Hatred, Hurt, and Forgiveness
by BoozeRunner inexplorer spoke about ex-jw's hating jw's and spoke about forgiveness.. i dug up an article from the 12/1/97 watchtower.. in paragraph 15, under the sub-heading, when it seems impossible to forgive, the article stated this:.
what, though, if others sin against us in a way that inflicts the deepest of wounds, and yet there is no acknowledgement of the sin, no repentance, and no apology on the part of the offender?
(proverbs 28:13) the scriptures clearly indicate that jehovah does not forgive unrepentant, hardened sinners.
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Explorer spoke about Ex-JW's hating Jw's and spoke about forgiveness.
I dug up an article from the 12/1/97 Watchtower.
In paragraph 15, under the sub-heading, WHEN IT SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE TO FORGIVE, the article stated this:
What, though, if others sin against us in a way that inflicts the deepest of wounds, and yet there is no acknowledgement of the sin, no repentance, and no apology on the part of the offender? (Proverbs 28:13) The Scriptures clearly indicate that Jehovah does not forgive unrepentant, hardened sinners. (Hebrews 6:4-6; 10:26, 27) What about us? Insight on the Scriptures says: "Christians ae not required to forgive those who practice willful sin with no repentance. Such become God's enemies." (Volume 1, page 862) No Christian who has been a victim of extremely unjust, detestable, or heinous treatment should feel forced to forgive, or pardon, a wrongdoer who is not repentant.-Psalm 139:21, 22.
Many on this board have been such victims. Many are understandably still smarting from unjust treatment.
What I see is NOT hate, but HURT. I notice that most JW's will judge the emotions they see, instead of the CAUSE of such.Paragraph 16 continues:
Understandably, those who have been vicims of cruel mistreatment may feel hurt and angry.
So there you have it-out of the mouth of the WTS itself. They are NOT exempt from persons being unforgiving, as they are responsible (either by passively standing by and doing nothing, or by ordering their henchmen to destroy lives) for inflicting deep wounds on countless people. They do this with NO remorse, NO apology, NO REPENTANCE!!!!
if I had $.02, this would be it,
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How the Net will reduce WTS ranks
by Seeker inshe is studying with one of jws.
she has a study with her teacher, and then she comes here and talks about it.
she learns that the wts teaches one thing to new ones, but something else entirely to those who are already baptized.
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ROTFLMAO @ JeffT, and BBoy...LoL
Boozy
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HOT - New York State Law - Affects Pedophiles!
by Amazing inhello all: this is a new york assembly bill.
that is why it is preceded by an "a" in the bill number.
also, new york has passed several related bills protecting children, especially against abuse and violence.
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Hi Amazing,
TY for the info. I believe that New Jersey passed a similar law a few years ago.Boozy
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Silentlambs and Signifiers that Signify Nothing
by dunsscot incall me a neopositivist, a semi-verificationist or semi-falsificationist, but the claims made by "silentlambs" reminds me of the shakespearean line that was quoted in the creator book published by the wtbts.
that is, the contentions of silentlambs seem like much "sound and fury" that in truth signify nothing.
i am of course referring to the supposed dateline show and the claims made about some members of the gb of jehovah's witnesses.
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Dunscot, SL did NOT say those GB members were child molesters. Yes, the suggestion of such was made in several responses to his post, for example, references to NAMBLA and such.
Personally, I hold to the theory that ANY organization is a microcosm of our larger society. That being so, I believe that we will find a closely matching percentage of similar dysfuntions, personalities, etc. in that smaller part of society. So, check stats for molestation in society at large, and I think you will find molestation in similar numbers.
Of course, given the shame that victims experience, the guilt that comes from "ratting out" a "brother", and the WTS method of covering up such offenses, some victims may not come forward, so numbers within the WTS may never add up to that of society in general-not on paper!!!
However, I am sure that SL and those involved will certainly deliver the info as promised.
Boozy
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WT News Release
by messenger inhow bout those jw's helping their neighbors?
of course a neighbor is only defined as a fellow jw..... i do not know if i can take much more of this hypocritical masturbation.
for immediate release .
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yawwwwnnnnn.....So the JW's in Houston did a good deed after a flood. How about organizations who strive EVERY DAY to help their communities, such as the afore-mentioned Habitat for Humanities? Its the little things in everyday life that makes a true difference as far as I am concerned.
The RED CROSS has been helping victims of disasters for decades. They likely got a mere line in the middle of a news story after the Houston flood.
Yep, just a way to toot their own horn, as evidenced by the contact numbers following the article.
Boozy