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  If you could live to 200 - what would you do with your life?

  by truthseeker in

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  if a pill or some treatment was developed to allow you to live to 200 - what would you do with the rest of your life?.

  let's just say that you started to get old around 175. you're in your 50s.

  would you work longer, enjoy life, help a needy cause or travel?.

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  Effervescent

  heh- and you thought Social Security had problems now!

  If I were in that situation I would want to travel. There are so many different cultures out there and wonderful things to see... Id want to see them ALL.
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  JW's at my door tommorow!

  by zev in

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  yep, they were here yesterday, and gwen asked them to come back saturday at 10.. .

  i've ben waiting for an oportunity to "reverse witness" to them for 3 years now, and i have a chance to do something good here.. .

  where do i start?.

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  Effervescent

  I just found a book yesterday called "Answering Jehovahs Witnesses" by David A. Reed. An awesome book by the way. Im going to go out and look for more of his books when Im done with this one.

  He has a lot of great suggestions for turning around the thinking of dyed in the wool JWs. The main point he had I think is to not give them any reason to think that youre attacking their doctrine or belief system. They are so ingrained with the thought of not giving an "apostate" any chance to worm their "demonic" thinking into their brains that they will put up their guards right off the bat.

  He suggests using the approach that you have sincere questions to make them think that they may actually really help you. He also said that you have to initially cause them to question for themselves the leadership and authority of the GB. You have to strike at the base to topple the tree, so to speak. By asking leading questions (with an angelic countanence of course) you can introduce doubt regarding doctrinal flip flops, prophetic failures, and cover-ups. By causing them to doubt the leadership, (while they *think* they are teaching you) you will help them get through the brainwashing. Only then will they be able to begin questioning their own faith in the doctrine.

  Its hard getting through to people who are so programmed. I know... I have a family full of them- hence the reading matter.

  I dont know if that helps... Just thought Id share some information I found helpful for myself. My first instinct would be to attack attack attack!

  Effie
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  Were YOU Guilty Of A "Secret Sin"?

  by minimus in

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  the witnesses know how to getcha to "do more".

  guilt is their main weapon.

  if you feel guilty over something no one might ever know about, the watchtower society has seen to it that even whatever you might have thought of or done in secret will be revealed.......were you ever guilty of a secret sin??

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  Effervescent

  The whole subject of elders trying to ferret out "secret sins" in the congregation just serves as more proof that they are just a bunch of dirty old men trying to get their shriveled rocks off on the sexcapades of others. We should do the world a favor and buy them all anonymous subscriptions to Hustler.
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  Traumatic memories never grow up, neither does the person

  by wanderlustguy in

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  my mother has been through a lot in her life, some bad before the truth, then following through during and after.

  almost all of which she never shared with me until the past few months when i had to have my questions answered to get past the events i was stuck on.

  i feel i am aging in years every month now, and was curious as to why.

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  Effervescent

  Wow... what a great post, all I can say is "Thank You".
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  Do you feel bad for all the things you did as a JW?

  by rebel8 in

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  i do: shunning df/da'ers and others i was told were "weak" or "bad association"telling on fellow dubs to the elderscalling the rc church and being hostile/rude while demanding they remove my name as a parishoneranything and everything i did in field service and informal witnessingintentionally having a distant relationship with my "unbelieving" dad and other relativestelling my relatives i was planning on going to bethel, which broke their hearts (of course i never went, because it was a lie--my mom made me say that sh-t)sitting during the pledge of allegiance/national anthem or during prayers when attending funerals/weddings in other churches (imo it's intentionally disrespectful--obnoxious--why make the point of being in the room and then disrupt--they should just leave the room if they can't be polite)being judgementalparticipating in the kh grapevineobeying my jw whack mother's rules and all the other jw rules, and tolerating mental abuse--i feel guilty for not displaying basic self respect.allowing my mother to continue spanking me until i was 18, again which showed lack of self-respect (lol, on my high school graduation day, she tried to punch me and i held her hands back, said, "you are never going to hit me again.

  " younger sibs clapped!

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  I regret having done all the above things in a seventeen year attempt to make my father proud of me. Too bad I didnt know at the time that he was just a image obsessed man who put his quest for power above the needs of his family and the love of his children.
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  who is who on here??

  by holly in

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  i know there are mostly ex jw's on here.

  i just wondered how many of you are ex jws, left or df'd, how many are still in but have lost heart?.

  are there any jws on here who still believe its all the truth, go to meetings and trust the organisation?.

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  Effervescent

  I was raised as a witness and both sides of my family were heavily involved. My father started really working his way up in the congregation when I was in elementary school and by the time I was in junior high he was an elder. I came to the conclusion in my senior year of high school that I was bad at heart and I couldnt change myself (I had really tried) so if I was going to die at Armageddon I might as well have some fun before I get there. I left to live with my Mom in Alaska and its taken years to "deprogram". For years I still thought I was "bad". A few years after that I decided to attend a church where I was living. It opened to my eyes as to what I always felt Christianity should be about. Since then Ive gone to a few different churches due to moving, and they have all been head and shoulders above the witnesses in their love and compassion and Godly teachings. My personal feeling in finding a church is that I never blamed God for the witnesses denial of reality. I never lost my belief in Him, just in myself.
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  Yoga vs Pilates....................

  by HEAVENS DESTINY in

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  does anybody know if pilates is another form of yoga?

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  Effervescent

  Dustin- Pilates helps alot with flexibility. Just think of the possibilities

  Im sure itll help with those twister games anyhoo....
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  Does the bible teach that man is superior to women or just diffrerent?

  by JH in

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  looking at how the jw's treat sisters compared to brothers, it would seem that the jw's think that men are superior to women.. is this what the bible really says?.

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  a christian- That was some interesting reading and a unique viewpoint. Thanks for posting it, I don't think I had heard that take on Paul's teachings before. I'm always interested in alternate explanations.
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  Yoga vs Pilates....................

  by HEAVENS DESTINY in

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  does anybody know if pilates is another form of yoga?

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  Effervescent

  I've done some Tai Chi- I love it. Very low impact and great for those stress filled days. With three kids I have more than my share of those!
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  Are there any 'true' churches ?

  by Qcmbr in

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  just a question because of course we all either believed we were in the 'truth', are still in the 'truth' have left and found the 'truth', there is no 'truth' or that the only truth is found in the trailer park with a bottle of bud and a bunch of 'pozzies:)

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  Effervescent

  I'm also of the thinking that "truth" is an individual concept. When it comes to Christianity, I'm of the persuation that we were all created by God differently, with different needs, desires and motivations. It makes sense to me that everyone will find a different truth. It would be just too boring if we all agreed on everything.