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Why they won't try again...
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i have spoken to two jw's today's who are well acquainted with my non-conformist stand and absence from the meetings.

much difference in their readjustment approach <emotional v logical> but they shared this in common: .

they both explicitly refused my invitation to pursue the conversation to another session - both said they saw no basis for 'getting anywhere' and didn't see the point of endless conversations...i accept that but also think... .
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1 Tim 3:1-10 promotes an organisation
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
speaking with a hardline friend (oxymoron alert) tonight he used the above verse as proof that jehovah needs a hierarchical organization - otherwise why stratify the membership?

any refutation?

cheers .
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Humourous DA letter
by besty in
1. jw
2. friends
right- we've been thinking about this.. .

it seems that most da letters are: doctrinal, personal, emotional or or major issues such un etc .

and completely understandably so..but.. .
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Is a rapid graceful exit possible?
by besty in
1. jw
2. experiences
we will find out soon.

as a brief update my wife sweet pea and i have 'announced' to a few friends and close family - less than 10 altogether - that we are no longer going to meetings.

some friends have probed for details, others don't want to know.
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Besty + Sweet Pea = Its A Family Affair
by besty in
1. jw
2. experiences
what a few days!

this time last week i was not even considering the big chat with sweet pea.

seven days on and:.
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Is Fading a DF Offense?
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
wife sweet pea and i are just starting the 2nd phase of our fade, which as we are already inactive and at 50% meeting attendance, means stopping going altogether.. supposing the elders decide they want to make a shepherding call - which we naturally decline - could they announce us as 'no longer known as jw's' for declining the call, not being at meetings and being inactive?.

what if we did take the shepherding call and told the elders we just weren't coming back, with no specific reasons given?

they would be bound to ask if we still believed the fds doctrine, which we could lie about use theocratic warfare strategy and say we were just a bit depressed, with money worries, struggling with the routine etc and would probably be back soon.. thoughts?.
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Had The Big Chat with my wife...
by besty in
1. jw
2. friends
after being a long time fader and lurking here for a few years i finally had the courage to speak to my wife the other day

she was complaining about how we never get invited back to other jw's houses despite being fairly hospitable ourselves and how she's made some new worldly friends that werre non-judgemental and just nice people.

she also mentioned her mum (also jw but weak - split up from her jw husband) was struggling with the routine and had lots of nice friends out of the kh.
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WT Library Lite
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. bible
did anybody else hear the announcement made this week that for 2007 there will be a new version of the wt library being made available?

essentially its a cut-down version with simplified search capability

wasn't listening all the way through but i think it will be additional to the standard version, also on the same cd.
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Circuit Overseer headcount in UK
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
briefly was party to conversation between elder and ms in our cong.

our po (mts graduate) has been made stand-in co at a recent school because...

15 'older' co's have been stood down as it were
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how would you respond
by besty in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
i had a shepherding call a while back and expressed some doubts about the org.

one of the elders asked 'if you know what you know now, would you still have got baptised?

sensing a bit of a leading question, i ducked it by replying 'impossible to say'