Oh MY God!!
These people aren't excited about the new baby!! It's the great meal after. eewee
Moanzy
imagine, you are tom cruise/chruch of scientology publicist.
you have a public relations problem - the public thinks tom & his group are wacked out, cult members.. then, tom cruise says to a reporter that he's ready to eat the placenta of his new child after it births.. lol!
this really helps the church of scientology/tom's next movie's popularity.. i realize that today's fathers don't want to wait in a waiting room with a cigar.
Oh MY God!!
These people aren't excited about the new baby!! It's the great meal after. eewee
Moanzy
the name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
I will also donate again Laurence. I believe in your fight and I believe that if you win this it will help many of our families to actually SEE the Watchtower Society as just a group of MEN masquerading as something HOLY with no rights to our lives and families.
Every fight AGAINST this corporation is worthy of our support!!!
Moanzy
i have said for years that bac's(born-again christians) and jw's see themselves in the other that is why they don't like each other.
i went to an ex-jws potluck the other sunday and sure enough the ex-jws that are now christians started in on me before i could sit in my chair.
they was pushing the "trinity" down my throat and saying that i had to accept the trinity in order to be saved.
After leaving JW's I started attending the BA's. At first it was alright and refreshing compared to the witnesses. I asked the pastor about my parents and what will happen to them at judgement time. The answer is that if they don't accept Jesus into their heart and become born again that they will go to hell.
I just couldn't accept that because as witnesses we taught that unless people of the world responded to our message favorably that they would die in armageddon. I just felt that condemning (sp) people to die whether at Armageddon or a torturing Hell really is not that different from each other.
Moanzy
i was listening to a testimonial by valerie acuff and she said that she was sitting in an assembly, looking around at the crowd and thinking to herself, "this is your family, these are your people.".
she said at that moment she heard a voice inside say, "these are not your people, this is not your family, get up and leave now, and don't ever go back.
" so she took her two children at that very moment and left, and she never went back.
The last straw hit me on the weekend of the circuit assemble. My youngest baby was only a few weeks old so my parents decided to come and help me with the kids. (ages 16mths, 3yrs and newborn).
Ironically the day my parents were coming down they got a call that my brother was getting disfellowshipped. My parents were all upset, but came to the assembly anyway. My 16mth old got terribly sick, high fever that we went back to the hotel early.
My parents had me drive them to see my brother because they wanted to talk to him "one last time" and give him some bible councel about making his marriage a 3 fold bla bla bla( his marriage was done in secret because of fornication). They were all feeling sorry for the poor guy getting married without family.
Later with emotions running high mom and I were sitting in the van, my mom asks "why are my children so retarded?" So I told her!!! She started crying and we were kind of yelling. My step-dad realizing my mom is all upset so he hops in the van and starts telling me to shut my big mouth..... I told him I wouldn't and I took off out of the parking lot. Dad exits the vehicle while I'm driving and goes rolling down the street. Mom starts screaming and I call him a dumbass for jumping out.
Then of all things my little 3yr old says "mommy why did you push papa out the door?" That was when I realized that there is something totally wrong with this organisation and vowed to figure it out. Within about 7mths I had written my DA letter and walked away.
Moanzy
this all happened when i was a kid, and i think i must have been around 8 years old.
we were at a meeting, and my dad (ms) had held a speech.
this didn`t happen very often, actually, this one time is the only one i can remember.
I remember in Kindergarten we had hotdogs for snack. It was so exciting! I ran in the house to tell my mom about our very cool snack and my mom freaked.
Yes she went on about how those hotdogs had blood in them and that it is a sin to eat blood. bla bla bla. I was barely 5yrs old!!!! But the guilt I felt was terrible. For a long time I wasn't sure if God would let me in the paradise.
Moanzy
this thread is started as a result of our friend lola's thread about meeting with elders and why.. it was mentioned by our poster that many would see folly in worrying about offending the ladies that helped her and that they were not true friends since they would shun her were she dfed.. is this what many of you think?.
do you think if family or friends shun you after you are dfed or daed they are not "true friends"?.
well i totally disagree.. does a mother or father who lets their child die due to refusing a blood transfusion.....not love their child?
Gumby,
I think that many JW's have NO idea what friendship and love is and means. I find it hard to identify love with a mother that tells her child "in Israelite times the parents would stone their disobedient children to death". Some things are just wrong to even say to children. Who tells their children that they are disgusting? Maybe my family is touched, but I just can't see love in any of this.
There are so many things about my growing up period that literally mark me as a throw away child. I do believe the Watchtower has stolen my families ability to love and at the very least show human compassion. It's very very sad!!!!!
Moanzy
now, i think "stupid".
"We are Jehovah's HAPPY people" La La La La La----as their lives fall apart!!
Moanzy
this all happened when i was a kid, and i think i must have been around 8 years old.
we were at a meeting, and my dad (ms) had held a speech.
this didn`t happen very often, actually, this one time is the only one i can remember.
Hellrider,
If it makes you feel any better, I used to hope everytime my step-dad was late coming home and the phone rang that it was the police saying that he was in a fatal car accident.
Very sick and I cringe now, but he wasn't very nice most of the time. I think he tried hard and just got frustrated.( even though it was no excuse). No one cared to help us children deal and put in perspective the normal emotions children have growing up. It's not your fault for not having the support you needed to deal with what you were feeling as a child.
Sorry to hear that you lost your dad
Moanzy
a young man is on the verge of saying goodbye to his mother.
he's forced in to this position due by a rigid organization that punishes strength, intelligence, and individuality.
i dedicate this thread to all good thoughts about richie rich.
Dear Richie's Mom,
( I am writing for my 3 little girls).
My grama and grampa don't like my mom because she isn't a witness. I am 7yrs old and my sisters are 4 and 3. My grama and grampa's religion don't allow us to see them. I didn't do anything wrong and I love my mom. I hope that you won't be like my grama and grampa and be mean to Richie and not talk to him because of a religion. Everyone should just learn to love each other.
Mckenzie
i'm just wondering if any df'd or da'd here have gone to the kingdom hall to attend a memorial or funeral service for a jw parent or on the other hand decided not to attened.
do you regret going / not going?
how were you treated?.
I attended my grama's funeral. It was a nightmare!! I arrived at the farm a couple of days before I was to be reinstated. My husband(non JW) and myself were treated like we were pure filth. No one would talk to me and I was told that "they" were all greiving. Apparently when you are not a witness you just can't possibly be sad when a relative dies. You are devoid of human feelings.
Also if you are da'd or df'd you can go to the funeral, but will not be allowed to go to the lunch prepared for the family because it is ONLY for family that are witnesses and they do not want you to fellowship or contaminate the flock. They do make exception for worldly ones to go, just not df'd or da'd.
When one of my family members dies I won't be going to the funeral. It would be pointless. I would be treated as sub-human and do not wish to do this to myself.
Moanzy