"till death do you part"---Now does that mean "physical" death or could it mean death of who you are. I personally think that if the person you married is killing you inside it is enough to get out.
Moanzy
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Is it true? Are adultery or death the only scriptural escapes?
by Cabin in the woods inwe have so many wise and well read people here on jwd so i thought that i would just toss this out and see if i could get some new enlightenment on this.
are there any other references that i have not seen in the scriptures ( and i have looked pretty hard for this) that would allow divorce that are considered 'acceptable' ?
am i just spinning my wheels in that foolishness still?
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ELDERS AND PARANOIA
by Es inhehe i hope thats how its spelt.. if you had family members that were elders did you ever notice the paranoia they had????
or maybe its my dad in particular?????.
they things he accused me off was unbelievable, we were never allowed to do anything to ruin his standing as an elder.
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moanzy
My step-dad was an elder and assumed that whenever kids got together that fornication would happen. We always got the 3rd degree whenever we made plans. By the time our parents got done with us we felt like we had already sinned.
My parents went through my mail and listened on phone conversations. I never kept a diary because I knew my mom would go through it. They did this to my brother too.
At one time my step-dad told us we were the reason he wasn't an elder.
To this day my parents will sware they never did these things.
I always wished I could talk to my parents about how I was feeling, but couldn't trust them. I knew they always looked for sins in everything we did. So how can we talk with our parents about the important issues if they have either accused us of them or are continually checking to see if we have?
Moanzy
Oh ya, when I was 28 and had my first daughter, I stayed with my parents during the district assembly. They gave me a curfew!!!!! (my brothers meanwhile, still living at home were out getting pissed every night of the assembly)
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ymca and christianity
by aoxo inok so when i was leaving i wanted to check out the local y and do some classes but i was always warned by so many people and articles in the w&a that they were tied in with churches and paying for a membership would be like giving money to other churches.
i tried to look up that info from the quotes in older w&a's and couldn't even find the book that was quoted.
i even grilled the people at the y and repeatedly asked if it was or ever had been affiliated with a particular church.
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I haven't any experience there, but I asked one time why we didn't help a starving child in another country?
I was told because the people would be taught by churches about God and not the truth and we don't want to support that. I guess that is suppose to be a good enough reason not to feed a starving to death child. Wouldn't Jesus be proud!
Moanzy
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Eat a Placenta?
by skeeter1 inimagine, you are tom cruise/chruch of scientology publicist.
you have a public relations problem - the public thinks tom & his group are wacked out, cult members.. then, tom cruise says to a reporter that he's ready to eat the placenta of his new child after it births.. lol!
this really helps the church of scientology/tom's next movie's popularity.. i realize that today's fathers don't want to wait in a waiting room with a cigar.
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moanzy
Oh MY God!!
These people aren't excited about the new baby!! It's the great meal after. eewee
Moanzy
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SHUNNED FATHER DEATHSUIT AGAINST THE WATCHTOWER - UPDATE
by SHUNNED FATHER inthe name of the trust fund is save the children.
the cheques should be made out to: save the children and mailed to:.
save the children.
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moanzy
I will also donate again Laurence. I believe in your fight and I believe that if you win this it will help many of our families to actually SEE the Watchtower Society as just a group of MEN masquerading as something HOLY with no rights to our lives and families.
Every fight AGAINST this corporation is worthy of our support!!!
Moanzy
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Born-Again Christians and Jehovah's Witnesses are "identical twins"
by booker-t ini have said for years that bac's(born-again christians) and jw's see themselves in the other that is why they don't like each other.
i went to an ex-jws potluck the other sunday and sure enough the ex-jws that are now christians started in on me before i could sit in my chair.
they was pushing the "trinity" down my throat and saying that i had to accept the trinity in order to be saved.
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After leaving JW's I started attending the BA's. At first it was alright and refreshing compared to the witnesses. I asked the pastor about my parents and what will happen to them at judgement time. The answer is that if they don't accept Jesus into their heart and become born again that they will go to hell.
I just couldn't accept that because as witnesses we taught that unless people of the world responded to our message favorably that they would die in armageddon. I just felt that condemning (sp) people to die whether at Armageddon or a torturing Hell really is not that different from each other.
Moanzy
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Where were you when the realization hit, that the WTS was not in the truth?
by whyizit ini was listening to a testimonial by valerie acuff and she said that she was sitting in an assembly, looking around at the crowd and thinking to herself, "this is your family, these are your people.".
she said at that moment she heard a voice inside say, "these are not your people, this is not your family, get up and leave now, and don't ever go back.
" so she took her two children at that very moment and left, and she never went back.
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The last straw hit me on the weekend of the circuit assemble. My youngest baby was only a few weeks old so my parents decided to come and help me with the kids. (ages 16mths, 3yrs and newborn).
Ironically the day my parents were coming down they got a call that my brother was getting disfellowshipped. My parents were all upset, but came to the assembly anyway. My 16mth old got terribly sick, high fever that we went back to the hotel early.
My parents had me drive them to see my brother because they wanted to talk to him "one last time" and give him some bible councel about making his marriage a 3 fold bla bla bla( his marriage was done in secret because of fornication). They were all feeling sorry for the poor guy getting married without family.
Later with emotions running high mom and I were sitting in the van, my mom asks "why are my children so retarded?" So I told her!!! She started crying and we were kind of yelling. My step-dad realizing my mom is all upset so he hops in the van and starts telling me to shut my big mouth..... I told him I wouldn't and I took off out of the parking lot. Dad exits the vehicle while I'm driving and goes rolling down the street. Mom starts screaming and I call him a dumbass for jumping out.
Then of all things my little 3yr old says "mommy why did you push papa out the door?" That was when I realized that there is something totally wrong with this organisation and vowed to figure it out. Within about 7mths I had written my DA letter and walked away.
Moanzy
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A little story of JW-childhood-horror, and am I evil?
by Hellrider inthis all happened when i was a kid, and i think i must have been around 8 years old.
we were at a meeting, and my dad (ms) had held a speech.
this didn`t happen very often, actually, this one time is the only one i can remember.
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I remember in Kindergarten we had hotdogs for snack. It was so exciting! I ran in the house to tell my mom about our very cool snack and my mom freaked.
Yes she went on about how those hotdogs had blood in them and that it is a sin to eat blood. bla bla bla. I was barely 5yrs old!!!! But the guilt I felt was terrible. For a long time I wasn't sure if God would let me in the paradise.
Moanzy
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Shunning and Friendship...two different things.
by gumby inthis thread is started as a result of our friend lola's thread about meeting with elders and why.. it was mentioned by our poster that many would see folly in worrying about offending the ladies that helped her and that they were not true friends since they would shun her were she dfed.. is this what many of you think?.
do you think if family or friends shun you after you are dfed or daed they are not "true friends"?.
well i totally disagree.. does a mother or father who lets their child die due to refusing a blood transfusion.....not love their child?
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moanzy
Gumby,
I think that many JW's have NO idea what friendship and love is and means. I find it hard to identify love with a mother that tells her child "in Israelite times the parents would stone their disobedient children to death". Some things are just wrong to even say to children. Who tells their children that they are disgusting? Maybe my family is touched, but I just can't see love in any of this.
There are so many things about my growing up period that literally mark me as a throw away child. I do believe the Watchtower has stolen my families ability to love and at the very least show human compassion. It's very very sad!!!!!
Moanzy
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What First Pops Up Into Your Mind When You Hear "Jehovah's Witnesses"???
by minimus innow, i think "stupid".
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moanzy
"We are Jehovah's HAPPY people" La La La La La----as their lives fall apart!!
Moanzy