it really makes me angry when they say i love jehovah.
they don't know what they are talking about.
if they read with an open mind the carry-ons of this cruel mesopotanian god they would feel ridiculous and embarrassed for putting this god before their family, their children.
Visiting Speaker - The ______ congregation sends you their Christian love...
Audience - [applause]
Visiting Speaker - Perhaps you'd like to send your love back to the ______ congregation?
Audience - [applause]
Visiting Speaker - The ______ congregation also sends you their Christian love
Audience - [applause]
... and so on, for about quarter of an hour
don't know if you knew this or not - they have a new study aid called "bible teach".
and guess what they will be studying come january 2007!
the revelation book - it's grand climax at hand!
When they sold the NYC property they probably came across a room filled with a million or so surplus Climax books. Since they are a business it was determined that the best way to liquidate surplus stock was to study it AGAIN
That's just what I was thinking. In one of Ray Franz's books he mentions in a footnote that the WTS had done exactly that on at least one occasion.
a couple of weeks ago there was a post about watchtower circular reasoning, or paradoxes.
it fits very well with an article i wrote so i have included a couple of examples.
thanks to whoever posted the idea and sorry that i can't remember who it was.. .
A Watchtower paradox would be more like "Satan cannot read your mind, and yet mind-reading is the work of Satan"
recently, i obtained some pdf copies of old golden age magazines.
i haven't had much time to read these but i just came across the december 31, 1924 issue.
i had heard the golden age was a bit odd...this confirms it.
Thanks so much for making this available. I've just read through the whole thing, and I really am amazed at how different their beliefs were at that point. I keep hearing from JW family members that it has to be the Truth because "the basic teachings have stayed consistent and really haven't changed much since the beginning." I had always assumed that myself. But let's see now... in just ONE issue of Golden Age, what do we find?
do current jws still sing were jehobahs witlesses!
at their khs and conventions ??
i suspect ..but am not sure if they still use this song.especially due to all the false statements in the words.. ours is the god of true propheceeeeee what he fortells comes to be!
In one congregation I was in about 12 years ago they used to hold sign-language classes once a week for the benefit of a deaf sister who had no-one to talk to. I attended one of these and learned to SIGN that song. Picture a room full of people waving their arms around to the words "Men make gods of wood and stone, but the true God they've not known..." for about two hours. Totally bizarre.
how hard would it be to store every watchtower since day one , in a database?.
how many giga bytes would it take?
would the wts shut down any site that hosted all the watchtowers( over 100 years worth.
The earlier ones must be out of copyright by now, surely? If a site hosted those, I don't think there's much the WTS could do even if they had a problem with it.
a couple of my favs:.
"loyal love, god is love, may god's love move us to love".
"...like bees that were molested, but we can ever beat them off...".
Why no live music (even if it is some crappo organist?)
Two or three congregations I've been in had a piano or electric keyboard that was used to provide music - but there were only a couple of people who could play well enough so the tapes were always on standby in case they didn't show up. One congregation even had a violinist to accompany the piano. Also in the hall I attended when I was very young, I distinctly remember seeing a drum kit standing next to the piano for a couple of years but I don't recall hearing anyone actually play it.
one of the most notorious things that jw's like to talk about are their expectations for the new order.
they talk about what things will be like, the kind of activities they'll enjoy, how resurrection will work, what the "worldwide cleanup work" will entail, which houses they'll appropriate, how they'll finally be able to have the kids they've put off, and so on.
here are some of the things i've heard witnesses say about the new order: they would personally explore the moons of jupiter for possible human colonization they would eat meat, since isaiah talks about "well oiled dishes filled with marrow" they would travel the world they would learn to play the piano they would research the "other scrolls that would be opened" they would play football (but not tackle football) they would have bible studies with newly resurrected ones they would speak hebrew (it's the language god gave adam and eve, you know, and we'll all have one language in the new order...) they would literally never feel any pain sensations ever again, even if they banged their elbow.
I knew one JW who was convinced that in the New System everyone would have the ability to levitate and teleport.
this one christian (non jw) and i are starting to get close.
i was wondering... if i did marry a christian (but a non jw)... would the church look down on me?
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The fact that he's a Christian wouldn't be relevant. As far as JWs are concerned there are no other Christians, so he'd be looked down upon just the same as anyone else.
jws and the lack of high emotional states
the wts capitalizes on a couple of mood states.
the biggest is fear.
While they are told that JWs have more love amongst themselves than any other religion (and this therefore is proof of God's blessing), in reality, they are no different and probably less emotional than most people.
I think that works on a fear level as well. If JWs are the most loving friendly hospitable people on Earth, then by comparison everyone else must be waiting to kill you with sticks the second you set foot outside the hall.
