panickattack--just wanted to wish you and your wife well. It takes a while to overcome all the brain-washing, and it can feel quite devastating to have your belief system pulled out from under you. You might consider going to a therapist who specializes in people coming out of cults.
love2Bworldly
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feelings of hopelessness for wife and I. Any video or book recommendations
by PaNiCAtTaCk inive read coc and isocf and they destroyed my faith in the society and faith in man.
ive officially gone inactive in the last 2 months.
ive had several email conversations with ray franz that have also made me more convinced that i could never be an active jw again.
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New here.....kinda
by lola28 inhey everyone, this is my first post and i'am terrefied.
i have been lurking for over a year and finally decided that it was time to post.
i feel like i know all of you and feel more at home here than at the kingdom hall.
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love2Bworldly
Welcome! You will find us "Apostates" to actually be normal, great people.
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Another topic on lieing....
by shera inso...i'm in a relationship,where my man lies alot about his gambling problem.of course.... .
the thing is he tells me all men lie and basically saying...like him.
(also i will never find a man that won't lie).
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I am on my third husband, and let me tell you all 3 are major liars. But I am honest with myself, I have chosen to be with 3 dysfunctional men because I have co-dependency issues. But lieing majorly gets on my nerves because I am a pretty up-front and open person, and I'm pissed off that I am married to another liar.
This husband doesn't lie because he has drug and alcohol issues like my first 2 spouses--he lies for other reasons, like covering up his addiction to pornography. I can't promise this marriage will work out any better than my first 2, because basically I absolutely hate it when people lie to my face--it pisses me off worse than what they are trying to cover up.
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A newbie's impression on this board, pros and cons
by smelly onions incons.
i don't know who is scarier, the jw's or some people on this board.
man, r u guys bitter?
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love2Bworldly
You know I agree with the fact that bad things happen in all religions and organizations. But what makes the WS evil is the fact that their covering up of sexual abuse and other abuse, sweeping it under the carpet and letting those type of people continue to be elders and hold other positions that have regular dealings with children and other potential VICTIMS. And treating the VICTIMS as if they did something wrong by wanting to prosecute CRIMINALS who also happen to be professing JWs.
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Why do some here refer to themselves as "Apostates"?
by Netty inthe only real definition of apostate i ever had was from being raised a witness.
so, i have this idea that it is an evil, wicked thing.
because of that i dont like to call myself an apostate.
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"When I was a dub and when I first exited the term "apostate" struck fear in my heart. They were the damned. I think I enjoy referring to myself as one now because it shows how far I have come from that time in my life. Their words no longer have any power over me." I agree with that. I do rather enjoy calling myself an apostate just because I know what type of images the JWs have of them, and I know I'm a way more normal thinker than any JW.
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My Anger is Building & Building
by LouBelle inhey everyone - i have this anger, perhaps rage boiling within me, it has been for the past week since i was disassociated.
my feelings of dislike are turning to bitterness & hate against this organisation.
i learnt today that the elders have lied to my family.
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love2Bworldly
Lou--my thoughts are with you, I'm sorry you have to go through this with your family and so-called friends. They are so blinded by that cult, you should feel pity for them.
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marriage in the new system
by gringojj inluke 20:33- 36 talks about there will be no marriage after the ressurection.
my wife doesnt understand this and i know nothing about it.
what is the wts stance on these verses?
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I always had a hard time with the beliefs surrounding the 'new system' and the resurrection. It didn't make sense to me that some would be able to stay married on earth and millions of other people couldn't because of the resurrection. God created us to live on this earth with our human and sexual desires--either all mankind on earth are human or no one will have human sexual desires. I'm sure the Bible was referring to people that were resurrected to heaven.
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Homosexuality What the Bible Really Says...
by EvilForce into all my very patient friends out there thank for your support here.
over many threads i have argued and posted on what various indivdual versus in the bible say.
to put it all together i decided to create it's own topic thread so it could be referred back to in the future.
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love2Bworldly
Thanks for all the info EF. As time goes on, I am changing a lot of my views toward the Bible. I enjoy reading it, and believe it has a lot of good moral value for people--as far as treating others as you would treat yourself. But I think people go overboard in reading everything as literal. I can't openly talk about this stuff with my spouse, which is annoying to me. He reads the Bible every day for an hour and is waiting for the 'antiChrist' to appear any day now and for all the Christians to be caught away in the clouds. He sees everything in the Bible as very cut and dried, very black and white, and all I see are shades of various gray tones. He is very anti-gay, but sometimes I think his homophobic feelings are due to his uncle molesting him and making him feel dirty as a child. I think because he is not gay, he has some deeprooted fear of being perceived as gay.
Anyway, I'm getting a little off the topic. But I enjoy learning other perspectives on the Bible.
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Lifestyle critics
by Chia ini'm unable to get online as much as i used to, but i try and get on sometimes during the day.. last week i posted regarding a situation with my mom.
this time i'm having issues with my brother.
i've posted about him before.
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love2Bworldly
Wish you luck on your move. Maybe you should ask your brother why he is always saying stuff like that to you and see what he says? Then when you move out you might know what his motives are and whether to keep in contact with him.
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Question for Jehovah's witnesses?
by _stone_ ini was reading through a christian forum and there was a thread that someone had started speaking of the trinity.
when i say trinity i mean the father, son, and holy ghost\spirit trinity.
anyrate, sose about a hundred or so post into that thread someone mentioned that jehovah's witnesses don't believe in the trinity.
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love2Bworldly
JW's believe Jesus to be Michael the archangel, before he came to earth. Yes they believe in angels. They believe Satan is a fallen angel.