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  The Tower ate many Baby Boomers

  by Alex Delta in

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  i do some thinking every once and a great while and had a little brain storm which to most of you is just a cloudy sky.

  looking back into history i put one and two together and see that the baby boomers came to be after the 4 first false prophecies of the tower which were in 1914, 1915, 1925 and 1945. after all this jazz happens they have a huge fall out and change and twist their doctrine to set up their next sales pitch, and wouldn't you know it, who's there for the towers perfect meal, baby boomers, the tower chew's away and gets pretty full for they're plenty of them, those ingredient were perfect.

  these people grew up with wars, tons of protest's, scandals you name it there was plenty of things happening to them, add a little this and a dash of that and that's what the tower loves to feed on the feared.

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  A lot of religion is motivated by fear, the JWs are experts at it. Unfortunately, the politics in America mimics religious convictions and world view, so 911 mania is simply a repeat of cold war fear mongering. As more information on JW hypocracy is available on the web fewer will be influenced by the fear of loosing everlasiting life, blah, blah, blah! carmel
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  have you ever been to a psychic?

  by still_in74 in

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  just curious...... have you as a jw / ex jw ever been to a psychic or spirit medium, or even played with a ouiji board?.

  what was your experience ?

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  Never had the kahoonas to try it but I did meet a person in Alaska years ago that had an amazing skill or talent in which he could know what I was thinking, planning to do or other bizzar stuff. He amazed me on several occassions with his "insights". I met up with him three years ago here in Oregon. He was in his late 70's and still had the same ability to tell me what I had been doing, what I was planning to do and other things that noone but I knew. He just laughs when I expressed my astonishment... One strange dude! carmel
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  A calmer, more serene, moment in time.....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  four weeks ago, my only child, my daughter, was asked to leave my home.

  it was tough love.

  she has spent the previous 3 years incarcerated.

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  HEY, good onya Jeff! You won't regret the effort to raise your grand kids. We did the same with our only grandson. Got him through highschool and equally important, got him off the seven different drugs the "experts" had him on. He's now in Alaska with his dad and thriving. We have good friends that had a similiar experiance with their daughter that got hooked on Crack. She's in and out of jail and living on the street inbetween incarcerations. Her kids spent a year with their maternal grandparents but are now in Mexico with the father's relatives. They are wonderful and the kids are doing really well being away from an alcoholic dad and a drugy mom. At least the kids know both sets of grandparents love them and will make any sacrafice to see that they are nurtured and have the opportunity to grow up normal. Wish I could give you and your wife a hug! carmel
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  Are you in the Spokane, Walla Walla or Yakima area?

  by Bryan in

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  i'm scheduled for many books stores in spokane, walla walla and yakima.

  i'm currently working on seattle stores for april/may.

  then i'll move on to portland.. i'd love to see you if you're in these areas!.

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  What's in it for me? I make it to portland regularly! carmel
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  Was your decision to leave the jw's based upon worldly friends/influences?

  by chicken in

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  hi guys, i'm new to the forum :) i'm a worldly girl and got a friend who is a jw so im quite interested to hear from all of you :) also how did you're worldly friends compare to your jw friends.

  thanx in advance x.

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  At age 12 I was baptized and on that day realized all the promises that were made to me were BS. Their dodging questions from a child claiming I couldn't understand as a) I was too young and b) I wasn't baptized was a ruze to avoid being unable to explain fundamental contradictions to me. I wanted a different perspective on lots of issues but was not allowed to seek information outside the JW literature. I knew at that tender age what propaganda meant and that I was being given a dose of it. So my decision to get out was made that very day but it too a couple years to physically escape. carmel btw, welcome to the board
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  My Current Battle

  by KW13 in

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  ranting individuals need not reply.

  i need encouragement and general advice, personal accounts etc.. am i a christian or am i not?

  i've come to a point where i'm not sure whether or not i want to believe in anything, at the moment i'm confused as to whether i am a believer or whether i am someone recovering from indoctrination.. i feel that i've not had a 'pure' opportunity to decide if i want to be a believe and although the thought has been in the back of my mind, the conditioning has made me delay it and my current circumstances and poor health are forcing me to face it - i fear facing it will make me worse because its yet another thing i am not really mentally strong enough to deal with.. is it natural i fear what being an atheist means for me.

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  I can empathize with you in your quest for understanding and answers. Pretty common amongst thinking persons that found their way out of the JW jaws! I searched for several years for a philosophy that was satisfying and finally gave up settling on agnosticism. Yet I still yearned for a cosmology that gave purpose to life and gave a goal for not only me as an individual but humanity itself. History suggests to me that humans were very animal and beastly and that there is a general civilizing trend that is traceable and obvious to the fair observer. So it seems to me that have in to choose between a document that reflects 6000 year old (2000 for parts of it) stories that were passed on from one generation to another and complete rejection of the mystical element of man is a dichotomy that would leave me pretty depressed. One doesn't have to choose between the OT view of God and no God at all. carmel
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  Humans Need Fantasy

  by metatron in

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  the problem with making judgements about religion is that it is all too easy to dismiss the value of its ( usually) unsupported beliefs.. guys like dawkins and hitchens extol the value of atheism - as if they could prove that a life without illusion is somehow "better".

  related to this, we may also think that objective facts should overcome true believers simply upon their confirmation.

  life just doesn't .

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  How many of the "christian" technologies can be traced back to Islamic leaning centers? Likely the discovery of America itself would have been delayed centuries without the navigation skills taught by Muslims. Algebra and dozens of other fundamental ideas gave life to Europe which in turn transferred it to the upstart early americans... Islamist also adapted ideas from China and India fertilizing their own elan of creativitiy. We are the benefactors of all the cultures of the past whether we like the social doctrins of the various religions or not. carmel
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  ..Are you Afraid??..

  by OUTLAW in

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  we all make friends on this board..but..what happens when someone you get along with,posts something you don`t agree with?.....are you afraid to tell that poster what you really think?..they might get really pissy with you!................are you afraid??..

  ................outlaw

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  sharing a differing opinion is well and good if it sheds light on the subject, but if its just clashing of opinions for the sake of argumentation, I don't have the energy to waste the time. I tend to ask a question to get the poster to consider the consequences of their dogmatic pronouncement, but rarely much beyond that! carmel
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  Finding Faith without Fanatacism

  by TJ - iAmCleared2Land in

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  kera, npr's station in dallas, will be interviewing brad hirschfield at the top of the hour, in their "think!

  " daily program.

  you can listen on www.kera.org/think just click the "listen" button on the left.. i know nothing about the man, but found the name of his book, "you don't have to be wrong for me to be right" to be interesting, given our jw heritage.... second hour .

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  ...and how did Islam "spring from Judiasm..? carmel
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  Posting for the first time

  by southern belle in

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  i have recently gotten myself out of the org.

  after 2.5 yrs.

  of research about the org.

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  Hi SB and welcome! I knew the day I was baptize that it was a scam, but it took me 2.5 years to physically get out. When you're 12 its hard to escape the clutches of a dysfunctional family and a high control cult. I'm glad you feel releaved and free. I wish you well. carmel