Posts by luna2

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Same ol' Topic?

by Jordynne in

i've been reading through a lot of the posts and have to say, things are looking bad for me....i am looking for a bit of support with something that looks like an all too familiar topic:.

non-jw dating a jw.. my currently disfellowshiped jw is a 30 year old divorced father (3 children).

we have been together for 2 years.

Jordynne, to answer your poll question, I think most here belong to the ex/haters/hurt class. If there are any "happy" JW's here....well, they really shouldn't be. Good JW's are strongly discouraged from socializing with non-JW's as people outside the org are considered "bad associates" and likely to weaken their faith. Anybody who leaves the faith and no longer believes it teaches truth, is considered apostate (opposers and enemies of God...very evil).

This looks like a really sad situation. If deep inside he is somehow expecting to get reinstated and then to be able to marry you....well, I'm not quite sure how that will work out. I know of an elder who cheated on his JW wife, married the woman he cheated with and got reinstated, but she (the 2nd wife) was either already a witness or became one. I've known JW women who married men outside the org, but they weren't disfellowshipped first....they got reproved and lost priviledges (not much you can take away from a sis...mostly they weren't allowed to comment at meetings any more and were looked at as spiritually weak), but they weren't kicked out.

When you're trying to get back in, they really expect you to toe the line, do everything right, and show humility and repentance...or you could end up sitting there in the Kingdom Hall being ignored for a very, very long time.

I hope he sees the light and runs.

((Hugs)) to you.

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What are some of the "Get rich quick businesses" the witnesses tried?

by mjarka911 in

jw
friends

i remember many witness businesses that would pop up.

usually they would say "i'll just offer it to the friends to get started, then when it takes off i can pioneer".

it was usually one after the other for the same people.

luna2

Had an elder try to interest me in a pyramid scheme he brought back with him from Boca Raton. Funny thing is this guy was already well off. He'd had some sort of very successful business that he'd sold for beaucoup bucks and had been able retire early. Had a nice house with a pool and tennis court up here and, I assume, owned something in FL too as he and his wife lived part of the year down there.

At any rate, he had plenty of dough, but couldn't resist making even more money. Didn't bother him one little bit to recruit the friends (many of us NOT well off) to buy into this great "business". I was such a sap that I went to a meeting at his home because I didn't know how to say "NO" (like there weren't enough damn meetings we had to go to). I did think about buying into it after his wife waved a check for $8K that she'd just received in front of our faces, but the idea of having to look at every person I knew or met as a potential mark gave me a stomach ache. I finally told him it wasn't something I was comfortable with and he mostly left me alone. Another brother said he had to complain to the PO about this elder harrassing him before the guy would stop.

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Witnessed to by mail and the dogs attack the tract

by SeymourButts in

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friends

a friend, kevin, called me this morning and says to swing by sometime today.....he's got something to show me.

i get my butt in gear and head to his house.

he hands me a letter he got in the mail on saturday.

luna2

Must be something they're trying out. I got one too not long ago. I was surprised they mailed it to me and didn't just leave something on the door. I know they stop by here trying to find out if I'm "all right" and tell me they miss me, but sometimes I can't hear them at the door (no door bell and I live in a town house). If I'm upstairs I often can't hear people knock....or sometimes I just don't feel like going to the door to be sighed over and "encouraged". The sis that wrote me didn't bother to put her return address on the envelope either. Interesting.

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Mothers Day is for Heathen Apostate Bastards!

by gumby in

i thought it would be cute to mix a little dubdom with mothers day since i'm jealous of everyone who gets ta give their mom sumthin and i can't..........so i'm condemning you damn pagans!mothers day origin moms are the best things that ever happened in the world.

on may 11th every year, we celebrate 'mother's day' as an opportunity to express our love, respect and gratitude to our mothers for all the things she has done for us.

alchemy webmedia has tried to consolidate the origin, history, legends and stories of this very special day, just for you.

luna2

For the past three years my son has always called and we'd go out to dinner or to a movie on Mother's Day. We never made a big deal about it cuz I didn't officially "celebrate" as I still thought of myself as a witness...a weak, inactive, screwed up witness, but still a witness. LOL I hadn't heard from him today and was feeling a little sad. Not that I was upset or anything...I mean, who raised him not to observe such holidays, right?

He just called a few minutes ago and we are meeting for dinner. Funny how that made my day.

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Can JW's celebrate Mother's Day? why not

by Pwned in

i know when i was a jw we never celebrated but i cant remember ever reading anything anywhere why it was bad.

did they just lump it in withh all holidays?

luna2

See gumby's post, Pwned. He's got a nice little history of Mother's Day there.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/90283/1.ashx

Pagan origins, "worldly holiday", ties to Christendom, glorification of puny humans...whole host of reasons JW's don't celebrate. I don't have any of my JW books handy (all boxed and in storage) to be able to cite specifics à la WBTS.

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Shunning my Husband

by AuntieJane in

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friends

ok, i am not a jw, never was, neither was he.

but today i am shunning him.

yesterday he went to a car show with a friend and drove home intoxicated.

luna2

AJ, so sorry hubby is being such a dick. Ugh! I like the advice about going out, doing something you enjoy and not wasting any more time stressing about him today. If you could manage not to be home when he gets back from the golf course, all the better. Looking into Alanon is also a super idea.

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Would you care to join?

by RR in

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friends

all you have to do is answer this "simple" questionaire

xxxxx has applied to join worldwide brotherhood on the web.. .

since your group is set up with a restricted membership, you must approve the application before xxxxx can join and participate in the group.

luna2

No thanks. Felt my IQ dropping with each question I read. LOL

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I am still Jazzed! Self esteem notched WAAAAY Up!

by CaptainSchmideo in

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friends

some of you might remember back in january, i started a little side business:.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/82808/1.ashx.

since then, i have had a couple of customers, then things kind of went quiet.

luna2

Congratulations! That is exciting.

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Do J.W.'s still spank their kids in Kingdom Hall libraries to punish them?

by hubert in

i've heard a lot on this subject, and was wondering if it's a common practice?.

can you go to a meeting and almost always see some poor kid getting a walloping in the back room for talking or misbehaving at the meeting?

or is this a thing of the past?.

luna2

The KH I attended when my kids were young pressured more towards spanking, but as Charisma said, there was pressure the other way too so that no matter how you handled it you felt like you screwed up.

My oldest was about 8 when we started attending meetings and was always very good. I think if he acted up we would have had to go outside because I wouldn't have felt comfortable marching him into the women's bathroom (the library seemed off limits). My youngest was 5 and a very active, out-spoken kid. I do remember a couple of occasions when we took a trip to the back, but I hated that sort of semi-public discpline so I didn't do it often. I did let them draw during the meetings, which helped. Sometimes I wished I could draw during the meetings. LOL

I don't recall wooden spoons making an appearance as baby shower gifts in that congregation, but I was so dumb that I probably would have taken it as a joke.

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Did we become JW because we wanted someone else to do our thinking for us?

by Rod P in

ask yourself the question "do i have the kind of personality that is attracted to a strong person or entity that speaks with authority, and is very assertive?".

most of us just want to follow the leader.

it makes us feel protected and secure.

luna2

I hate to admit this, but I am attracted to strong/outgoing people. I'm quiet and somewhat shy, so I think I like to hook up with people who are less inhibited or who will draw me out. I never would have said that I like being told what to do....and I don't, if a person takes away my choices or pushes me too hard right up front. The WTS is very clever in they way they do this, though. They give you the illusion of free will at the same time they are stealing it from you.

Ugh. I agree, kls, it is a creepy feeling.