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I need your help

by misguided in

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i had a conversation with my mother yesterday, it was "business" as she was retiring.

i got to talking to her about russell and his pyramidology.

i told her to go check the studies in the scriptures vol iii and she'd find in the 1904 edition the date of 1881 (or was it 1887?

I had a conversation with my mother yesterday, it was "business" as she was retiring. I got to talking to her about Russell and his pyramidology. I told her to go check the Studies In The Scriptures Vol III and she'd find in the 1904 edition the date of 1881 (or was it 1887?)and in the 1910 edition, 1914. I know she could easily look it up, my grandmother has at least one of those editions in her library, and she lives with my parents.

She said, that the light got brighter...blah...blah...blah...and that it's what's now that counts. I said in some cases the light just keeps flipping on and off. I gave her a few examples, but she wanted proof. I've got some stuff together, but you folks are so great I'm hoping you can help me get my "proof" altogether for her. I need flip-flops.

She agreet to read it if I mailed it to her so that my father didn't read it.

Maybe...Wishful Thinking....but if it gets her thinking???? Could I have my mother back???

Thank you all,

Rose

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This is very exciting for me... but I need your help...

by misguided in

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i had a chat with my mother the other night...it was "business" as she just retired.

but i took the opportunity to tell her about the russell graphing his dates to pyramid measurements and told her to look at studies in the scriptures vol iii, 1904 edition would give a 1881 date, but the 1910 edition would give the 1914 date.

i know my grandmother has these books in her library...and she lives with them, so my mom can look them up and see the "truth.".

misguided

I had a chat with my mother the other night...it was "business" as she just retired. But I took the opportunity to tell her about the Russell graphing his dates to pyramid measurements and told her to look at Studies In The Scriptures Vol III, 1904 edition would give a 1881 date, but the 1910 edition would give the 1914 date. I know my grandmother has these books in her library...and she lives with them, so my mom can look them up and see the "truth."

Anyhow, tonight we had a conversation...AND she wants to know the facts about the "flip flops". She brought up how important it was that the light gets brighter...but I said in some instances if flicks on and off...so now I need your help findin the "proof" to this statement. I've got some together right now..but I know you all can be a resource of valuable infomation.

My mother agreed to read it...if I sent it by mail so that my father doesn't see it.

Oh....wishful thinking....

Rose

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Okay, here's my story.

by sundawn77 in

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hey all.. first of all i want to say that i am really impressed by the warm atmosphere that this board provides.

i remember when i was little and we learned about non-witnesses, and they were portrayed as children-eating, blood-drinking criminals.

okay, i exaggerate, but the connotations were there!.

misguided

The questions they asked... Were the lights on or off? Did you use a condom? You did? So you planned to have sex? Where were you? What position did you use? Where did he touch you? How many times did you do it? They asked me that one at least 3 or 4 times throughout the meetings, like they were trying to get me to admit that I'm a dirty whore who did it twice.

Ohhh...yes....I, too have sat through this type of interrogation. I NEVER expected a JC to be so full of personal questions. I mean, what difference does it make...I'd done the deed I'd confessed to. What difference do all the gorry details make??? Actually, this was one of my first "awakening" moments. When they started to ask these crazy questions, I thought, Jehovah knew what I had done, why do I need to describe it to you three human men?

I am thinking that deep down your parents are proud of your accomplishments but are so blinded by the dogmatism of the WTS that they are not able to express it. Someday I hope they will

I hope and wish for this...and I do think this is true.

Why are JW girls so vicious?

because they're secretly jealous of you.

Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, even though I've begged them for that so many times that at one point I drove myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community

You know what, Sundawn? You know you did the right thing. You're smart. You're caring. You're genuine. You deserve honour!

I can totally relate to the driving myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I've done this myself...although never making it to the ER for fear of bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name...oh geeze!!!

I can't say it ever goes away...So far, I still battle this battle every day. But realize YOU are NORMAL and deserve respect. Your family is CRAZY...like mine!

Rose

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Okay, here's my story.

by sundawn77 in

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friends

hey all.. first of all i want to say that i am really impressed by the warm atmosphere that this board provides.

i remember when i was little and we learned about non-witnesses, and they were portrayed as children-eating, blood-drinking criminals.

okay, i exaggerate, but the connotations were there!.

misguided

The questions they asked... Were the lights on or off? Did you use a condom? You did? So you planned to have sex? Where were you? What position did you use? Where did he touch you? How many times did you do it? They asked me that one at least 3 or 4 times throughout the meetings, like they were trying to get me to admit that I'm a dirty whore who did it twice.

Ohhh...yes....I, too have sat through this type of interrogation. I NEVER expected a JC to be so full of personal questions. I mean, what difference does it make...I'd done the deed I'd confessed to. What difference do all the gorry details make??? Actually, this was one of my first "awakening" moments. When they started to ask these crazy questions, I thought, Jehovah knew what I had done, why do I need to describe it to you three human men?

I am thinking that deep down your parents are proud of your accomplishments but are so blinded by the dogmatism of the WTS that they are not able to express it. Someday I hope they will

I hope and wish for this...and I do think this is true.

Why are JW girls so vicious?

because they're secretly jealous of you.

Thanks to the Witnesses, I have parents who tell me repeatedly that they are disappointed in me and can never unconditionally love me, even though I've begged them for that so many times that at one point I drove myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I am financially independent, have bailed them out financially, skipped grades, won a scholarship, have 2 degrees with honors, and I volunteer all over the community

You know what, Sundawn? You know you did the right thing. You're smart. You're caring. You're genuine. You deserve honour!

I can totally relate to the driving myself to the ER because I knew I was going to kill myself. I've done this myself...although never making it to the ER for fear of bringing reproach upon Jehovah's name...oh geeze!!!

I can't say it ever goes away...So far, I still battle this battle every day. But realize YOU are NORMAL and deserve respect. Your family is CRAZY...like mine!

Rose

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Who Will Be Celebrating Thanksgiving & XMas This Year???

by minimus in

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funny thing about jws----many celebrate thanksgiving but say they're only eating turkey with all the fixings by coincidence.

god made the food to be consumed everyday.

then you get witnesses who celebrate christmas the day before or after with all sorts of presents but they won't give it on the 25th because that day is pagan.

misguided

My family is!

Being in Canada, we've already had Thanksgiving...and it was great! Mmmmm so good. Had 2 turkey dinners. One I did for our family, and the other was at my fiance's co-worker's home and they had deep-fried turkey...sooo tasty!

Christmas is next and for once I'm a little prepared. I've even got most of my gifts bought and already wrapped.

On the 25th of November, we're having a family day. We're going to go up the mountain (I live 15 minutes from a ski hill) and cut down a tree. Last year we did it for the first time and we had such a great time, hot chocolate, tobagganning, snowball fights, roasting marshmallows, cooking smokies over a fire. The tree was horrible, but we had so much fun getting it, it didn't matter.

I'm lovin' every moment of the holidays.

However, I think Halloween is still my favourite.

Rose

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Adulterers are Worse than Pedophiles

by gumby in

....at least according to jehovahs witnesses.. if a sister at the kingdom hall suspect her hubby is playing naughty with another woman and she finds her hubbys car has been parked at anothers womans house all night, then she can write a letter stating she is sure that adultry has taken pace and divorce him, and he is then disfellowshipped, and she still remains in good standing..............but,.

if a child tells their parents and the brothers at the kingdom hall that they were molested sexually by a brother at the hall, and this accused brother denies this accusation and there is no other witnesses to this claim, then he is veiwed as not guilty and remains in good standing.. why do you suppose the accused adulterer is treated differently.....even if he denies that he commited adultry?.

gumby.

misguided

While they might have a tiny bit of sympathy for the children who are victims of pedophilia, their main concern is the reputation of the Organization. If they have to chose between sacrificing children and the WTB&TS, guess who wins?

What sympathy??? There was NO sympathy in my case.

It was like...go back into the pasture you crazy sheep. Even though we know it's true---you must have made the whole thing up. Your sanity is being sacrificed for the sake of the WTB&TS!!!

Rose

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Is a Dead Bunny Funny?

by OUTLAW in

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just had a buddy up to the ranch.this is his story:.....a friend of mine saw his dog with a dead animal in his mouth covered in dirt..it was a dead bunny..not any dead bunny..this was the nieghbours family pet bunny..my friend was shocked and didn`t know what to do.he knew the nieghbours would get very upset that his dog had killed their pet bunny..the nieghbours weren`t home right now,so he came up with a plan..he cleaned the dirt off of the dead bunny and put it back in it`s pen and hurried home..a little while later,the nieghbours came home..a few days later my friend and his nieghbour had a chat..the nieghbour was angry and upset..the nieghbour said:"last week our family pet bunny died.the kids were upset and cried.so me and the mrs thought we`d have a funeral for the bunny with the kids and give it a nice burial..well,a few days ago,some sick bastard dug the bunny out of the grave and put it in it`s pen."..lol!

!...outlaw

misguided

So..Is a Dead Bunny Funny?...OUTLAW

In this case, yes!

But, I think I heard that story before, too.

Rose (who's anxiously awaiting the death my 19-year-old daughter's geriatric dwarf angora bunny...good god, we've had the thing for 10 years now, and it was supposedly 2 when we got it...he's so scrawny now...how long do they live? I know...I should just Google it!)

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This is so huge.

by La Capra in

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when i was four, i believed that my life could be painfully and tortuously taken from me, in a ball of flame, crashing down from the heavens, just while i sitting down to a bowl of oatmeal in the morning.. when i was nine, i believed that my life, as i then knew it, would be drastically altered, that i would be tortured for being a jw, and after suffering for who knows how long, i would die (because i still hadn't lived up to jehovah's expectations).. when i was 13, i wanted to be a nuclear physicist-because it sounded cool, but in the meantime i believed that i would die in armageddon because i wanted to go to college, get really educated, and have a great, "worldly" life.. when i was 15, i felt guilty that i hoped armageddon would never come, because i so desperately wanted to go to college.. when i was 17, i was offered an honors early admissions in a prestigious program in a highly regarded engineering program.

my mother flat out said, "no!".

when i was 18, i scuttled semi-secretly to the local university, part-time, trying to hide my daily activities without actually lying to anyone.. when i was 19 i quit pretending and disassociated.

misguided

Congratulations!!!

You're right...that is HUGE!!!!

Terrific, Amazing, Wonderful!!!

Rose

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Got another letter published in our local paper!!

by HadEnuf in

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this time i thought for sure they wouldn't publish this one...but i believe our local paper, the stevens point journal is a very liberal, progressive little newspaper.

the elders ignored my last letter...i wonder if they can ignore this one???

oh how i love it!!.

misguided

Excellent!

Rose

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Matthew 24:12 and "The Love of the Greater Number"

by Clam in

i may be confused but as a practising dub in the 1970's i was sure that i was taught that matthew 24:12 referred to people losing interest in god and religion in general.

looking at contemporary wts literature they cite it as a prophecy of ever increasing lawlesness prior to armageddon.. this bible quote seems very different between the nwt - "because of the increasing of lawlessness the love of the greater number will cool off.

" and my good news english version - "such will be the spread of evil that many people's love will grow cold.

misguided

I may have been wrong, but this is what I understood it to mean:

I always thought it meant that many would leave the "truth" ...either as the Great Trib was approaching or during it....due to pressures and influences of this terrible system of things.

and it too stuck in my head after I left...it still does sometimes.

Rose