i can't seem to find the editing button to put in a hyperlink:.
they also put up a video on you tube on feb 12, 2012:.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usbmptrqawq&feature=player_embedded.
I can't seem to find the editing button to put in a hyperlink:
They also put up a video on you tube on Feb 12, 2012:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsBMPTrQaWQ&feature=player_embedded
And a Facebook page:
http://www.facebook.com/Bethel.And.City.Tours.1
What are your thoughts?
i want to vacation somewhere sometime later this year, but i am not sure where i want to go yet.
i need some ideas.
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My absolute favourite is the Fairmont Chateau Whistler. I also second the recommendation of the above post by Twitch for the Banff Springs Hotel.
Website:
(not sure why the address is so looonnnggg!)
Apparently, it is a destination for celebrities too, such as Pierce Brosnan, Halle Berry, Susan Sarandon, Chevy Chase, Tim Robbins and Shannon Tweed.
after all that we had drummed into us about not the cross, and particularly about not venerating the symbol itself, i have been wondering about this issue.. so, what are your views about wearing a cross around your neck ?
is it just a fashion accessory, or does it mean something to you ?.
inquiring minds would like to know
I used to wear 2 crosses around my neck. To me it meant I was double-crossed by religion, even though JWs don't believe in the cross. Now that I've been out of this cult long enough I've now decided to go down to 1. I'm favouring becoming a born-again...I mean I miss having that absolute of God and his will and a purpose in my life, yet on some level still believe in a higher power, but don't agree with everything they say.
The cross, to me, is just a symbol. To me it represents freedom. Freedom to be who I am. If I choose to wear a cross, it is my choice, representative of something, or not. I wear a cross with pride. (My JW family HATES it, but I don't care. It is my jewelry. I like it.)
we all know jw children must sit quitly in there seats or they are taken to the back and given a spanking.
here is what can happen to then.. .
toronto (reuters) - spanking children can cause long-term developmental damage and may even lower a child's iq, according to a new canadian analysis that seeks to shift the ethical debate over corporal punishment into the medical sphere.. the study, published this week in the canadian medical association journal, reached its conclusion after examining 20 years of published research on the issue.
I was raised with spanking. When I was 2 my dad asked me why I go to meetings. He was hoping for a "because I love Jehovah" answer; but, instead he got, "to get a spanking." When I had my children (6 of them) I was still stuck in that JW way of spanking my children when they didn't behave. One hit...another hit...eventually they became immune to it.
I took parenting classes when my oldest was about 7 and my youngest about 2, as a single parent. I learned how to parent without hitting. I was firm, they had consequences for their actions - but after I learned there was a different way to discipline I never spanked. My parents thought I wasn't doing a good job as a parent. One sister at the kingdom hell tried to assist me by hitting my children while "helping" me during a meeting when my kids weren't behaving. I was livid.
These children are now 18 to 24, all have graduated, are employed (the oldest as an RN) and none of them do drugs or have any kind of criminal record. The same cannot be said for my jw-raised, spanked siblings. All of my children have better self esteem than myself and my 3 siblings do.
Spanking does not work. Positive discipline, with firmness, consistency, and love do. It may take more time and work to do, but it works. Parenting is an investment in the future. Spanking, or any form of corporal punishment, in my experience, does not work.
i think it has to be the way they treat disfellowshipped persons.
as another thread, they simply ignore the person as if they're dead!.
Have a baby with his daughter.
I was once told by an elder that purchasing insurance for your home/things is materialistic. (We should trust in Jehovah to look after our stuff, and count on our Brothers & Sisters to look after us should something happen to them)
i don't know where to start.
hoping to find a place to ventilate my feelings of long period... language is a barrier as english is not my primary language, i will still give it a try.. baptized in 2000, the message they brought to me was the end of world that everyone were talking to at that eve of millennium... i believed and started reading my first book, my bible story, for consecutive 10 hours.
during the bible study, the bible instructor told me he suspected i had some form of mental disorder, and later was diagnosed as schizophrenia.
Welcome.
were you a born-in or became one as an adult?
how long were you in for?
what made you realise it was all wrong?
Were you a born-in or became one as an adult? Born in, 3rd generation
How long were you in for? 37 years
What made you realise it was all wrong? Had suspicions as a kid. The blood issue played a roll in my realization, as did the hypocrisy, but mostly it was pedophilia. I was a victim of a cover-up, silenced, and made to feel crazy, for one. Secondly, my elder-ex-father-in-law had a baby with my ex-sister-in-law 15 years before we got married, and found out just before the wedding what we thought was my ex-husband's niece was also his 1/2 sister. This happened in Simcoe, Ontario, and they moved to BC where it was covered up and went on to become an elder.
Have you stayed in because of family? I did for a while, but couldn't live 2 lies.
Are you fading or have you completely gone? 100 percent gone. Miss my parents, but no amount of shunning is going to make me change my mind!
what is the wts going to do if a non df'ed individual is the primary care provided for say an elderly family member or a handicapped child or parent?
many of us are in the position that without our assisting these folks they would have no where to turn.
does not the bible admonish a responsiblity to these loved ones??
Why in the heck is it these 'Christian children's' scriptural and moral obligation to assist a sick, elderly parent (don't get me wrong, I am glad they can at least do that much!), but prior to that sickness, at least according to the Watchtower, there appears to be NO SCRIPTURAL OR MORAL obligation to show any form of 'honor' to their parent by checking in to see how their parent is doing (but instead they must treat their parent as DEAD)???
Possibly the $$? If one continues to be abandoned by your children during sickness, is one likely to leave their inheritance to their children who have abandoned them? Or possibly because it would make the ORG look like the cult it is by not caring for one's sick parents??
i know alot of us have stories.
maybe a chance to expose the sexual abuse issue of the jehovah's witnesses?.
http://www.andersoncooper.com/be-on-the-show/.
I know alot of us have stories. Maybe a chance to expose the sexual abuse issue of the Jehovah's Witnesses?
http://www.andersoncooper.com/be-on-the-show/
20th topic in the list
(sorry, I've forgotten how to put in a hyperlink, and I appologize if this has already been posted before.)
i'm really curious how many of those df'd have ever received a yearly visit........ .
Ah...still a no, 8 years after df'ing...and still living in the same home. Interestingly, they don't care too much about my kids (5 of them, either - now aged 17 to 23)
