We used to be the social hub of our congregation. As the only young ones with a house, we even had weddings in our back yard. When we started missing meetings, we were instantly dropped, with hardly a single social visitor or elder visit. The first thing that got the elders to start harrassing me was there were told I went to the engagement party of a disfellowshipped person.
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How many in the cong visited you when you started fading
by joe134cd ini'm just curious speaking from a person who has stopped going to meetings.
i have heard reports from inactive ones (or from ones who the elders suspect of going to the dark side) of having so many visits from elders (cong members) that it got to the point of harassment.
surprisingly i have to say from personal experience and from numerous others that i have spoken to that the exact opposite has been the case.
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Disassociation
by evilone inhi all, i haven't posted here in quite some time.. just as an update, about two years ago, my wife and i moved to a big city about 500 miles away from the town in which we grew up.
we made this move in part to expedite the fading process, which was successful.
when we moved, as i described in an earlier post, we formally transferred from our home cong (where our families are) to a local cong in our new city, and then transferred twice more so as to get lost in the shuffle.
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If you disassociate, they are likely to try to find your original congregation and make the announcement there too. It sounds like you have a lot more to lose than to gain from disassociating.
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Tainted Love: Your JW wedding
by Julia Orwell inmine was actually great because my non-jw parents decided to pay for the reception, limo, cake, dress, honeymoon, and more.
i can thank my non-jw parents for what a totally fun day it was.. but, half or more of the guests were jws, jws who don't speak to me anymore.
some have even slandered and abused me.
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Interesting post. I will have to go back and look at my wedding photos from 16 years ago. I'm pretty sure they were all JW's, and most of them are still in and not talking to me.
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Is there a pedophile epidemic ?
by Snoozy inafter reading another thread on pedophiles i was wondering if there is a pedophile epidemic or is it just that we now have more access to the information?
it seems like everywhere you read there are more and more cases being reported.
are we becoming a nation with no morals at all?
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Quite the opposite. Child Abuse has been common throughout history, and it is only over the last few decades that this is understood to be damaging and unacceptable. That is why it is now being reported and seems to be out of control.
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Did JWN Discredit "JehovahIsJudgeUk" website?
by RottenRiley inthey use poor reasoning, they wiggle around the question and ignore the fact the watchtower was affiliated with the united nations.
this website fails to ignore the facts that we were not allowed to join the ymca even though we did not follow the charter rules, the watchtower agreed to follow the un charter and did so from 1992 to 2001 when the scandal was exposed.. .
have any of you seen works to debunk their slanted arguments and dishonest play of words?.
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It's official too: I will be DF'd... probably next Wednesday
by ILoveTTATT ini will write my story soon... .
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It is a sad time, because of losing family and friends, so expect to feel down, and don't be afraid to ask for support if you need it. But as everyone has said, you have made a huge step forward for the rest of your life, and you will be proud of what you have achieved in years to come.
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22 questions from creationists to evolutionists, taken from the Nye/Ham debate
by adamah inhere's 22 questions asked by creationists of evolutionists, on the night of the nye/ham debate: we've got alot of people who can help these creationists out, right here on jwn, so it seems the neighborly thing to do, right?.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/messages-from-creationists-to-people-who-believe-in-evolutio.
i'll take the easy one..... #22: if we come from monkeys, why are there still monkeys?".
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It is sad that people are still so ignorant about science. Here is a great rebuttal to all 22 false premises.
slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2014/02/06/religion_and_science_answering_creationists_questions.html
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Marriage Consummation - emailed question has me stumped
by jwfacts ini received an email from a jw that got married, but the wife never had sex with him.
they were together for a period of years.
he told the elders, but they said there was nothing that could be done.
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I found this quote, in which Watchtower claims it is not necessary for a marriage to be consummated by intercourse. The reasoning makes some broad assumptions about Adam and Eve, but that is the nature of Watchtower doctrine.
*** w56 9/1 p. 533 par. 22 The Divine Origin of Marriage ***
22 When Jehovah God brought this perfect woman to the awakened man in Eden and pronounced his blessing upon them and set their joint duties before them their marriage was consummated. It did not require any physical sexual union between them first to consummate their marriage. If that sexual connection were first necessary to make the marriage a real, valid, binding one, then Adam and his woman were never married in Eden. It is first after this couple found themselves outside of Eden some time later that, we read, “now Adam had intercourse with Eve his wife and she became pregnant. In time she gave birth to Cain.” (Gen. 4:1, NW) Adam and Eve knew that the purpose of the sexual connection was to bring forth children. So in their perfection and with perfect self-control and without shame at their nakedness and without feeling passion at the sight of each other’s unclothed body they refrained from having sexual union and conceiving children while in Eden. Nevertheless, they were fully married and were bound to cleave to each other lovingly in faithfulness. Jehovah God, the divine marriage-maker, had yoked them together. No creature could rightly put them apart.
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UN vs. The Vatican - Ex-JWs, are you sure?
by gold_C inso about a few years ago, thanks to this site i became convinced that everything that the jws have been saying is a bunch of nonsense and that i shouldn't worry about it.
it gave me some comfort, since there are several things i disagree with when it comes to the way one has to live in order to be a witness.
however, this business with the un attacking the vatican seems a little too much like what the witnesses have been preaching about to simply ignore:.
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The UN is not going to destroy religion, all it may try to do is make it accountable for its actions. Some countries are finally trying to stop religion being used as a way to rort the tax system.
Simply put; I don't want to die. Especially not by a cosmic tyrant who 'judges' me as 'unfit to live'.
You are going to die, it is a fact for everyone, JW or not. So why worry about it? If you believe the Watchtower has it right, that cosmic tyrant will simply destroy you, not torture you, so it not to be feared. Living under a "comic tyrant" sounds like it would be more to be feared.
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New Look JWfacts
by wizzstick ini may be behind the times here, but have any of you noticed the new look to jwfacts?.
http://www.jwfacts.com/.
the new branded logo on the top left, the scrolling bar at the top...reminds me of some other brand but i can't think where i've seen it before... .
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Thanks Wizzstick. I thought if it looked similar to the official site, JWs may feel more at easy when visiting.