So true. But for me its worth it.
Isaac
divorce is hard for everyone, unless the person is just jumping for joy to get out it.....but even then it can be rough....and you lose half your assets.....some people stay in bad marriages just because they can not afford to be divorced........ but esp if you are a born in jw.....you know what is so unfair compared to normal non-jw divorces????
?....what is so fukkin unfair?!?
!.......that you lose all your friends and family!!!!
So true. But for me its worth it.
Isaac
jw's are so brain dead that some of them are passing around the following email.
that outlines a daily study routine:.
suggested personal study schedule:.
I remember seeing something like this as a dub. JWs have so much they're supposed to do, they don't have enough time to do it all. So they're always trying to find some way to squeeze it all in. It finally dawned on me it was all too much to begin with. Duhhhhh!!!
Isaac
during a recent special day assembly program, ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
my family was completely shocked.
can you imagine the culpability and responsibility of this man who claims to speak for the christ to encourage women to get beat up as way to encourage their abusive husbands to come into the truth.
Ok I have to find another way to post out of WTLIB 2007. Sorry about the formatting. It just proves that one version of WT teaching in this area is to "grin and bear it" in hope the "unbeliever" will come around.
Isaac
during a recent special day assembly program, ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
my family was completely shocked.
can you imagine the culpability and responsibility of this man who claims to speak for the christ to encourage women to get beat up as way to encourage their abusive husbands to come into the truth.
Ted said that woman in a physically abusive marriage should submit to her husband so that eventually her husbands may respond to their submission and come to worship god.
Of course this is official WT teaching.
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rsp.251Marriage***matesjustcannotlivetogetherinpeace,isseparationpermissible?1 Cor. 7:10-16: "To the married people I give instructions, yet not I but the Lord, that a wife should not depart from her husband; but if she should actually depart, let her remain unmarried or else make up again with her husband; and a husband should not leave his wife. But to the others I say, yes, I, not the Lord [but, as verse 40 shows, Paul was directed by holy spirit]: If any brother has an unbelieving wife, and yet she is agreeable to dwelling with him, let him not leave her; and a woman who has an unbelieving husband, and yet he is agreeable to dwelling with her, let her not leave her husband. For the unbelieving husband is sanctified in relation to his wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified in relation to the brother; otherwise, your children would really be unclean, but now they are holy. But if the unbelieving one proceeds to depart, let him depart; a brother or a sister is not in servitude under such circumstances, but God has called you to peace. For, wife, how do you know but that you will save your husband? Or, husband, how do you know but that you will save your wife?" (Why would the believer put up with hardship and earnestly endeavor to hold the marriage together? Out of respect for the divine origin of marriage and in hope that the unbeliever may in time be helped to become a servant of the true God.)
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w714/1pp.202-203UnitingtheDividedHousehold***INTEGRITY—THEFIRSTGOAL9
This brings us to the first goal in a divided household. What is that? The believer needs to keep integrity to God and to obey the one through whom God speaks today—his beloved Son, Jesus Christ. To yield integrity is to yield life itself. (Heb. 1:1, 2; 2:3; Matt. 10:32-35) When discussing divided households, Jesus said: "Indeed, a man’s enemies will be persons of his own household," and then Jesus explained: "He that has greater affection for father or mother than for me is not worthy of me; and he that has greater affection for son or daughter than for me is not worthy of me." (Matt. 10:36, 37) If it must come to a showdown, then what? The believer must "obey God as ruler rather than men." (Acts 5:29) True, it may be a long war of nerves, but keep the goal of integrity foremost. The believer should refuse to become provoked or loud, when the going gets difficult. Realize that it is better to take abuse than to give it. (Eph. 4:26, 29, 31) And all who are members of the Christian congregation can help these persons who are fighting the battle of integrity on the home front. Encourage them to endure, to keep integrity to Almighty God.i posted these thoughts on another, shall we say, less populous forum.
i am intrigued by the matter, but not really seeking answers.
i post it here:.
I don't believe that I need faith in anything at all. I simply live and enjoy life and work good toward others. I work with what I have and am not hopeless. I'm not a sinner in need of a savior, therefor, I don't need faith. I have things in my personality that need work, as we all do. Faith implies that you are expecting something and I'm not.
My feelings as well.
Isaac
1. bethel in ny suspect high level apostate, cant identify it but know its there.
2. major organizational changes about to start rolling out, one is changes to the "service committee" and titles, po to be done away with, thats all i know for now.
was told that if you are the sort of person that cant handle changes, you wont stay in the org for long.
It is interesting the some of the things we have read on this thread that could have seemed outrageous at the time have happened, like the PO change. Let's hope for more change. But as Jesus is alleged to have said, old wine in new wineskins may not go far enough.
Isaac Carmignani
why is pharaoh's (or rather pharaohs', as there were more than one) not given in the book of genesis?.
did the writer (or compiler) of the book have something to gain by not being precise as to the idientity of pharaoh?.
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You would think if you were going to right a historic book inspired by God and going to be read by future generations you would want to get all the facts straight. It leaves you with more questions than answers. I don't get that book at all. Then for someone to say all you need is faith is a crock.
I know what you mean. The fact is it probably wasn't written with future generations in mind as already mentione Of course this just makes this comment seem even more outrageous:
(Romans
Isaac Carmignani
15:4)4 For all the things that were written aforetime were written for our instruction, that through our endurance and through the comfort from the Scriptures we might have hope.first of all, i have wt library through 2007 now.
i am going to post the question box on this topic to read, then discuss.
my comments in red, (or other assorted colors).
What a controlling bunch of pompous asses.
Isaac
i still get copies of all the kms and mags - just for a giggle really.
oh and to look out for noo light of course!.
i was browsing thru the march 15 2009 yesterday and came across something that was noo to me.
Here is the way a JW put it to me recently. He said the Bible Students knew SOMETHING momentous would happen. They were wrong about what happened, but after all, they're only imperfect humans!
Isaac
so we hadour first big meeting tonigh ( bookstudy, ministry school and service meeting ) here are my observations:.
1) even though it is the same amount of time, it seemed verrrrry long.
2) it seemed like a circus.....too many parts that did not relate to the others....seemed like a crossword puzzel with 6 different languages.
Talking about the kids, I think this will be very bad for young ones and shy ones since now they will never want to comment
Good, in a sense at least. The less involved they feel the more likely they'll leave.
Isaac