hi apostate man, very very good point here, does the light gets brighter mean we were in darkness? And if so then what about all the things that were done because of faith in wtbts, i mean they used to celebrate xmas at bethel until the light got brighter of course, how many things will change as they realise the bs they spun has not come about, oh sorry we made a mistake, no the light got brighter, and if jehovah is directing the org then why does he let his people live in darkness, does he want people to fall away because they are dissalusioned, and how many more lives will be lost because of suicide from not being able to keep up with the standards the wtbts sets out.
chezza
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"New" light Vs. "Old"light
by apostate man insome of you may have read a thread i started on masonry found here at http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=22479&site=3 .
i showed my wife this information and she was shocked to find out there is a pyramid with a cross on it at russells grave.
she printed all information and went to ask her jw dad about it.
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Our Sins
by radar inwhy the ransom?.
when you think of all those suffering today and throughout the generations, and all this happened just because two inexperienced people went up against a powerful spirit creature and lost.!.
now, if someone is in jail, lets say for something like stealing, someone can perhaps pay for their release on bail.
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chezza
very good point here
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hypocritical parents anyone?
by collegegirl ini was reading one of the posts earlier about how hypocrisy among the rank and file really pushed some over the edge.... well, how about this one?
my mom and i were watching pretty woman on tv tonight (edited version).
it is her favorite movie, so i told her i was going to buy it for her.
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chezza
My parents had this saying do as i say and not as i do, meanwhile the swearing and drinking and arguing went on and on, but we had to be good little christians, hahahahahahhahaha.
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Hot Cross Buns Stories!
by Beck_Melbourne inmy jw mother used to peel the cross off the hot cross buns at easter time...she said it was her way of compromising...so that we werent partaking of anything pagan.
did anyone have parents like mine...or am i the only one??
what was your understanding of easter eggs and hot cross buns at easter time?
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chezza
I remember vividly having to wait until easter had finished before we could rush off to the shop and buy our crushed up easter eggs we were dyig to have, what was the difference between eating the crushed up ones and the whole ones i dont know but it just shows how rediculous some people can be.
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To the older Poster's
by Patriot inand i mean older in the literal sense not time in h20 or jwd and with some serious time put in with the wt.. how do you feel?
how do you or did you face the facts of the wt and dismiss everything and everyone that you have believed in and has been your friend for so many years?.
how do you make up for lost time?
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chezza
Amen beck
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Overeating
by radar init is intersting that the bible does not speak specificly about things like smoking, blood tranfusions, etc, which the watchtower will expell its own members over.. yet the bible does speak specificly about over eatingit even goes on to say that such people will not inherit the kingdom.
yet from my experience in the organisation many witnesses would over-eat(few pleasures left when you got your head in a book all the time) and many were clearly overweight and suffering for it!.
this led to all sorts of health problems for them from back trouble to heart disease, yet i never heard of any being dissfellowshiped on the grounds of gluttony/overeating!!.
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chezza
Excellent point here, how literally the scriptures are taken for the more "serious" of matters but these other things are ignored, in fact isnt the teaching that a sin is a sin, none more grave in gods eyes than others, and yet there are so many doing these "little" sins and it going unnoticed or not counciled on, one particular elders wife came to mind when i read this, on the numerous christian gatherings she was at were it was yourself boy did she ever help herself, and we are talking plate after plate after plate, it was gross to watch, but never a word was said, just shows even more the hypocrisy.
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good tv shows?
by gotcha inhello just wanted to ask what tv shows do u guys watch?
we have limited choices over here but now i know where to get tv rips (evil me)..anyways..what are good to consider?
some shows i'm into are sex and the city, friends, and felicity that's about it..southpark too but dont get to watch now..ahh yah i watched survivor too and fear factor when i get to catch it..
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chezza
I am so excited the new buffy series starts tonight and angel strted last week and the new star trek finally tv is worth watching.
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I MUST SHARE THE BLAME
by IslandWoman ini was baptized at the age of sixteen and i believed jehovah's witnesses were god's approved people.
they said what i wanted to believe.
it sounded good: a worldwide brotherhood who would not go to war against each other, a strict adherence to god's word, the teaching that god could not burn people in hell because he was a loving god, a striving to be approved by god by doing good works, etc.. i believed.
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chezza
I know exactly how you feel i was the same age baptized and i too have children that i took along to the meetings and had bible studies with, i am d/f and no longer go but their father takes them to the meetings and witnessing and such as he sees it as right ( we are divorced by the way) i llook at it this way, we did the best that WE KNEW,now we know differnetly and our children like us will make up their own minds as to the way they want to live their lives, we just gave them choices, and they can see for themselves what is right and wrong, so dont feel bad feel glad that we cared and we tried to do what we thought was right, remember we too were blinded.
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Was leaving easy for you?
by Preston ini was contemplating today on how easy it was for me to leave the congregation compared to what many people here had to deal with.
i mean, all the letters, judicial committees, family breakdowns were not really something i had to deal with.
the worst thing i had to deal with was when a couple of elders inquired if i ever "acted on" my being gay.
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chezza
This is a good question,i was 4 years old when my mum started going to the meetings, my dad was never religious at all but he insisted that we go along with mum coz it was agood way to live our lives ie: the morals and all, so i did what we were supposed to do, the preaching the talks baptism etc, married a ministerial servant and thought wow i have done well, then somewhere out of the blue years later we found out that my brother in law had molested my niece and that tapparently the elders were aware of him doing the same thing to someone in the congregation years earlier and it had literally been swept under the carpet, i chose because of my inlaws support to him ( they were witnesses mind you) to not speak to them because of my understanding of the bible tey were condoning what he was doing, he was disfellowshipped also for something else, and they chose to still have him in their house and associate with him and even payed his legal fees to get him off the charges, to cut a very long story short, i was told by the elders i was a bad witness because i would not talk to my inlaws, (by this stage my husband was an elder) and that i was a bad example and that if i didnt talk to my inlaws my husband would loose his position and he actually was supporting the elders in their meeting with me, after choosing to stick to his wife when we exchanged vows he then felt the elders were more important than me , well i felt like i had nowhere to go, i started going into a chat room to talk to people who wern't in the "truth" just to see if i was normal in my feelings toward my inlaws, i met a lovely man in there and we got to talking and i ended up leaving my husband for him, i told the elders exactly what i had done and i was disfellowshipped for it, yes it was hard losing the support structure of the friends who i left behind and being a good witness i had no worldly friends, but i will never be sad for the man i have in my life now and waking up to the lies and hypocrisy that i had grown up in and i know that in time i will make new friends.
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Dad did nothing to stop abuse
by Dogpatch ini don't recall if this was posted before, it is from january:.
dad's jehovah witnesses did nothing to stop my sex abuse nightmare.
victim's agony claims.
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chezza
And what about the so called elders who are supposed to protect the "sheep" who allow it to happena nd cover it up by telling them not to go to the poilce, they are reprehensible