Posts by GoingGoingGone

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Do jw youths understand

by carla in

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do jw youths understand that if they just didn't get baptized their parents would not be able to shun them later?

they must be able to see how this works in other families.

is it feasable for a jw teen to reject baptism?

I got baptized at 14 to please my mother, to try to get her approval. I knew even then that I didn't fully agree with the teachings, but at that young and vulnerable age, parental acceptance is the most important thing in your life.

When my kids approached their teenage years, I was dead set against them getting baptized so young. I remember a WT once that said something to the effect of 'if your child is old enough to decide what clothes they want to wear, what styles they like, they are old enough to decide if they want to serve God.' There is no way I would let them even consider it. And a few years after that, I was mentally 'out' myself, and actively discouraged them from getting baptized.

The interesting thing, to me, is that they have both said that they will NOT be JWs once they move out of the house. But, they have also said that if I had wanted them to get baptized years ago, they would have. In other words, they were willing to 'dedicate' their lives to ~~an organization~~ God because I wanted them to. Anyone else see something wrong with that?

GGG

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My Prediction: More Elders, Ministerial Servants & Pioneers Will Be Removed

by minimus in

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because of this college rule.

i know many family "hads" that have decided that they wanted to have their children go to school.

i know of some older ones that have gone to community college to get a degree so as to have a better paying job.

GoingGoingGone

I know that the anti-college crackdown has begun in earnest now. But kids who go away to school are usually age 18, considered legal adults, and make their own decisions. How can they hold that against the father, even if he is an elder? Once the kids are out of the house, what they do doesn't reflect on the father in the same way. Or does it???

GGG

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Elders School Part 3: Your talks kinda blow, brothers...

by sir82 in

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in the interest of completeness, i will post this part of my notes as well, even though it was not as controversial as other parts.

more controversial and/or ridiculous astatements to follow in later postings.

talk 9: preparing talks for the congregation - brothr local elder

GoingGoingGone

I believe when I start missing CAs, DCs and SAs I will feel the same way at first.

I missed half the summer convention for the first time this summer. I stayed in the hotel and watched out the window as my kids and husband and other family walked thru the parking lot, met up with someone else in the cong., and drove off. I felt very left out and alone. Like you, I don't miss it enough to want to go back to it, but it sort of bothered me that I felt that way. Wonder what causes that?

Thanks for the review, sir! Looking forward to the next one...!

GGG

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Oops! The lens in my eye popped out!

by Elsewhere in

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about 12 years ago i developed a cataract in my right-hand eye after an injury.

the surgeon went in and removed my natural lens and implanted an artificial one.

the way they remove the natural lens is they use a little device to chop it up and then they just pluck the bits-n-pieces out.. what has happened is when they did the surgery 12 years ago they missed a piece of the chopped up lens because it was hiding behind my iris.

GoingGoingGone

Cool pics!!

Either way it sounds like it will work out well... if the drops work, you avoid surgery. If not, you get to upgrade (never a bad thing...hehe).

GGG

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No Typos...

by tall penguin in

i was just thinking about how, in all the time i was a jw, i never once saw a typo in one of their publications.

i used to think how wonderful it was that jehovah made sure his publications were edited to the letter.

after all, "god is in the details!

GoingGoingGone

I also remember 2 typos... and 2 translation errors. Not big things, but I noticed them.

Too bad I wasn't more observant when it came to all the false prophecies...

GGG

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Elder school notes, Part 2: hysterical screed against education continues

by sir82 in

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continuing this morning's notes, in the same format.... talk 5: overview - organized to do jehovah's will - brother bethel-coot.

synopsis: general high level review of contents of new "organized to do jehovah's will" (od) book.

pointed out how to use index (duh!

GoingGoingGone

I.e., a man who is "presiding well" over his family need not worry about their emotional state, giving them support & encouragement, their education, preparing them for the "real world", showing affection, sympathy, kindness, etc. So, now I finally see why there are so many elders with dysfunctional families who continue to "serve"

Excellent point. Very sad, but very true.

If there was any doubt about whether the recent hysterical screeds condemning higher education were just a passing fad, this talk completely blew that notion away. Elders are commanded, in no uncertain terms, to direct people to the WT Index & the subheadings on "Education" if anyone comes to them for guidance.

This makes me sick. As if kids in the borg today don't have enough problems, now they'll have the elders all over their cases if they decide to go to college. Look at all the elderly 'faithful' JWs who today are nearing retirement age, with no retirement plan, because they have worked their entire lives at menial labor just to make ends meet. Telling a new generation of kids that they should not educate themselves is morally reprehensible for that reason alone.

GGG

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Elder's School Notes Part 1: Quit being so materialistic, you slackers!

by sir82 in

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ask, and ye shall receive.. i will herewith post my notes from the km06 elders school i recently attended.

i will post this in 6 parts, to give people a chance to read smaller chunks and comment on them.. a couple of introductory notes: i wrote an awful lot of stuff, and will not post everything.

for each talk, i will post 3 sections: (1) general synopsis, (2) personal thoughts & observations, (3) particularly egregious quotations.. the primary speakers, who delivered more than 1/2 of the talks, were a circuit overseer and a guest from brooklyn bethel.. to protect anonymity, we will refer to the sadly inane circuit overseer as brother sico.. and the old-timer lifelong brother from bethel, completely out of touch, as brother bethel-coot.. one more introductory comment: it seems the main points the society wanted to send to elders were:.

GoingGoingGone

Loved the review... thanks so much for posting this!! The elders here go to the school this coming weekend... I love knowing the info before they do.... LOL!!!

Looking forward to the rest of the drivel....!

GGG

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Do you feel as if your relationship with God was ruined by the JW's?

by JH in

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before being a jw' i felt as if i was at peace with god, and now through the jw brainwash, i feel as if i'm at odds with god.... does anybody else feel this way?

GoingGoingGone

When I was a JW, I never ever felt close to God. I did everything right, I pioneered, I prayed, I read my bible daily, I went to all the meetings. But I never understood him, and I never felt like he was listening when I prayed.

When I began my exit, I prayed and prayed for him to help me know what he wanted me to do. For a short time, I did feel like he was listening... but I don't know anymore.

Anyway, to answer the question, I don't think the JWs ruined my relationship with God. I just never had a relationship with God as a JW at all. Now that I'm out, I feel like I can start to try to understand him, and maybe I'll be able to form some type of relationship from there. Maybe not. I guess we'll see....

GGG

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