((((((((((((onesong)))))))))))))
I'm sorry you're going through this.
GGG
it's been 2 months since i was df'd and 4 months since i've talked to anyone in my family.
for the most part i'm doing real well but every now and then it catches up with me.
ran into my dad today and when i tried to say hi he could only ignore me.. i think the pain and hurt i feel now is more for him, he's in his own world of misery and doesn't even know it.. anyway, i'm a little drunk and depressed and just felt like getting it off my chest.. hope this doesn't bring anyone else down.. namaste'
((((((((((((onesong)))))))))))))
I'm sorry you're going through this.
GGG
"please pass the tortillas".
while the writer obviously enjoys tortillas i wonder if it saddens him that the culture that created the tasty tortilla will soon be slaughtered at har-mageddon?
Hmmm... this thread made me hungry... gotta go get some Tostidos
GGG
hi everyone, i'm a newly registered member here.
left the witnesses coming up to two years ago, got df about 8 months after that, still struggle with life after the 'truth', feel resentful of it all, but know i'd never return to that brain washing.
anyway hello to everyone one, enjoyed reading posts i've seen so far.. arnie
Hello and welcome!
GGG
i've been thinking about this a lot lately.
in my experience, jws don't know how to handle joy but they're very willing to get pumped up when there is a crisis.
the whole religion centres around saving people from an impending destruction.
I absolutely agree with you here, and I've had this opinion for years. The JWs must have crisis in their lives, or else Armageddon isn't close enough. Good news isn't part of the 'sign' of Matt. 24... so good news is ignored. The focus is on the terrible world conditions, the climate changes, the crime rate (oh.. and they ignore the reports that crime is actually decreasing in some cities!), etc., etc.
Human beings are not supposed to funcion in crisis-mode year after year after year. Personally, I think it's one of the reasons for the high rate of physical and mental illness among the JWs.
It's SOOOO good to be out!!
GGG
yes, it is 6 years today since i entered a kingdom hall for the very last time, and with each passing year this particular "anniversary" gets happier.
even better this time, i have so many people to share it with who have had the same kind of jw experiences as me, in the past the friends i have made since leaving the lie kind of acknowledged it, but didn't really understand, so i just want you all to share in my joy today.
dedpoet
Congratulations and Happy Anniversary to you!!!
I'm so happy we can share your day!
GGG
Wine? Sweet white wines, Riesling mostly; Merlot or Shiraz with a meal sometimes
Coffee? Starbucks or the Columbian organic coffee from the local fresh market... with half and half
Beer? Yuck
Pizza? My homemade - thick crust with sausage, olives, mushrooms, and onions..... mmmmmm!
i'm back!
with more questions for "unbelieving mates" of jehovah's witnesses, or ubm's.
tetrapod, i haven't forgotten you, and i'm working on a follow-up thread on friendships as well.
1. How did your mixed marriage happen?
c) You left the JW's afterwards.
2. Did the two of you talk about your different beliefs and how you were raised before you committed to the other?
n/a
3. How many times a month or week (whatever is easier to describe) does spiritual subjects come up in your home?
Depends what part of the rollercoaster we happen to be on. Sometimes, we'll go weeks. At the present time, several times a day.
4. How do you relate/interact with other witnesses or congregation members?
I hide. I've been avoiding them, because the current trend seems to be to ask what they can do to help me spiritually. One of my very best friends has been avoiding me. I don't know why that bothers me so much, because I have honestly been avoiding her, too, since she expressed her desire to sit me down and talk.
5. Do you talk to non-JW family about your JW spouse?
I do not talk to his non-JW family about him. I feel like that would put them in an awkward situation. I have told my sister and my father, both of whom are df'd, that I am not going to meetings and do not want to be a JW anymore. My father immediately asked what my husband says about that... I told him he wasn't happy about it. My father pretty much told me that I better figure out how to 'fix' things with my husband, since I'm the one who changed the rules. (I just love supportive family.) So I don't talk to him, either.
6. Are you an "opposing mate"?
No. In fact, I tell my kids that they should cooperate with their father when it comes to meetings and service. I support him in what he wants to do. I just expect the same treatment in return.
7. If you are a Christian, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse?
My lack of desire to be a JW anymore makes him angry. His refusal to listen to my reasons for that decision frustrates me.
8. If you are an Agnostic/Athiest, what are the most contentious subjects with your JW spouse?
n/a
9. When/how/what made you realize your marriage/family was threatened by your spouse's JW affiliation?
When I first told him that I had serious doubts, probably about a year and a half ago, he told me that he didn't know me anymore, that I was not the same person he married. Other things he's said and done/not done makes me wonder sometimes if he's preparing to cut his losses and leave me - although other times I think I'm just overly sensitive right now. Realizing that some JWs will divorce their spouse for 'spiritual endangerment' shook me up, too.
10. My favorite question, anything else to add?
I have always been the kind of person who just wants everyone to get along... be happy... kiss and make up. I have no problem being flexible with my own desires in order to make that happen. My leaving the WT, however, is not something that I'm willing to be flexible on, no matter how much I rock the boat. And since this is out of character for me, my husband doesn't know what to do with me. I understand that he's upset, that he's dealing with a difficult situation. But so am I. I feel like I am in the twilight zone... I can't believe all this is happening. I can't believe that my marriage could be threatened by this. I can't believe that I could lose every friend I've ever had. I need to get past the denial stage, plant myself firmly in reality and deal with it. Easier said than done, I'm afraid.
as many of you know, i have a myspace.com account.. apparently, while i was out last night, someone called my mother and informed her of my activities on myspace.
my mother called and asked me for my login info, and was shocked to see me, and around 40 witnesses in my area having active profiles.
contents of these profile ranged from a few pictures to downright self-incrimination.
((((((((((((((Richie))))))))))))))
Hang in there buddy.... You are a great kid with unbelievable potential. You have your head on straight and your heart in the right place. I'll be thinking about you... try to let us know what happens if you can.
GGG
i tried to edit part 6, but once again the system ate my notes.
so i will try here.. talk # 22: trust the faithful and discreet slave - brother sico .
synopsis: we can trust the faithful and discreet slave (fds).
Any organization that has to write POLICY DOCUMENT on such a basic requirement HAS A PROBLEM WITH COMMUNICATION.I'd say that headquarters has a BIG PROBLEM WITH TRUSTWORTHINESS.
My thoughts exactly.
GGG
post 1043 of 1114. since 15-jul-05.
i have a cockatiel, and it is true love.
hl .
That's so cute!
We had a cockatiel that flew in one day and adopted us a few years back... my daughter was in love with that bird. Strangest bird, it liked to hide behind the table at the entrance to our bedroom and then run out and bite us in the ankles when we walked by unsuspectingly. We had V-shaped bite marks all over our ankles... we finally took to running past that table, just in case, every time we wanted to go into the bedroom. Any casual observers must have thought we were crazy....
Anyway, this bird sang a few songs when he came to us: Happy Birthday To You (his favorite), and Jingle Bells. So we set about teaching him Kingdom Melodies . Every morning thereafter, we awoke to the chorus of song #4 (I think)...... When he flew away after about a year, my daughter was completely heartbroken. Whoever he has graced with his presence now, is listening to Kingdom Melodies......
GGG