The JWs never believed they would need to be taken care. They never believed they would need a retirement, which is why my mother is now retired, collecting only social security and doesn't have two nickels to rub together. She is 65. Could she get a part time job to supplement her income? Sure! But then she couldn't act like a poor old single JW sister living in poverty so she can regular pioneer. These are the conditions of people that they celebrate the most.
Wild_Thing
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Taking care of aging parents
by skeeter1 ini hear that a recent talk was about taking care of one's aging parents.
i agree.
generally, kids should take care of aging parents.
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Could you get disfellowshipped for simply asking questions?
by LogCon inif so, what would be some examples?.
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only questions that show a higher degree of thought and intelligence please..
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Wild_Thing
If you disseminate your doubts and questions to others in the congregation, then yes, you certainly can, and it has happened before. For example, if you question that they are God's true organization, or question they are the one true religion, that could definitely get you in trouble.
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GUILT TRIPS AND EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL!!!
by DATA-DOG inall hell has broken loose at my house!
the wife is pissed [ i did not turn in the "voluntary tithe" slip .
if she doesn't go, then she cannot do x event tomorrow.
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Wild_Thing
Witnesses are experts at double bind relationships. It's the psychological term that means "You're damned if you do. Damned if you don't." It was easier for me to deal with the double bind relationships with my family once I understand. Nothing will change, but it helps to understand it. Read about it. Here's one article: http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-second-noble-truth/201108/the-relationship-double-bind-frustration-enlightenment
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Mom
by JWdaughter inso, i'm visiting mom and had a great drive with her today in the mountains.
it was gorgeous and a good day overall.. i asked her a little advice about a issue i am having in my marriage/business about going beyond my comfort zone.
i am trying to figure out what is reasonable for my husband toask of me socially when it is totally out of my comfort zone and i discussed that i didn't want to be close minded and stubborn just because i am squirming a bit at what he is asking (nothing actually wrong, bad or anything like that, just not natural for me).
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Wild_Thing
Last year, my mom confided in me that she hates going out in field service and always have. She said that when she was a kid and her and her friend had their turn to go knock on a door, they would pretend knock and come back and tell them no one was home. What's funny is I use to do the same thing! Then, this past September, she signed up to regular pioneer! I don't get it! Why do they allow themselves to be tortured!
I wonder if she still does the fake knock! :)
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For those who feel that their life has been stolen
by stillin inyou maintained a level of personal decency and integrity that you almost certainly would not have had if you had chosen another direction.. sure, you would have had some very "colorful" friends and experiences if you had gone another way, but you still chose the more "edgy" people in the congregation as your friends and you still enjoyed yourself, even if there were a lot of phony constraints.. you looked for ways to be of value to others.
don't stop doing that!.
you kept the darker side of your personality in check.
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Wild_Thing
You maintained a level of personal decency and integrity that you almost certainly would not have had if you had chosen another direction.
This comment really bothers me. I don't understand why witnesses assume they have the corner on human decency and morality. This makes it sounds like the JWs were keeping our unfettered barbarian ways in check just enough to be decent people.
My experience since being out of the organization is that most people "in the world" are quite decent human beings, quite naturally so. I don't mean to suggest there was nothing good out being raised a Witness; just not much.
One thing I have noticed about growing up a JW is that they are absolutely not racist in any way. Or at least, that was my experience. After leaving, I was quite surprised to find out how racist some of the world still is.
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Survey---who is inactive, disfellowshipped/disassociated or active?
by minimus ini am inactive for about 10 years now..
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Wild_Thing
Inactive. 12-13 years now. Hard to keep track of how long after a while.
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Is She Going to College?
by OnTheWayOut inso my wife goes to a high school graduation for a congregation member.
she spends hours at the party, she has cake, she gives a very decent gift.
she brings home leftovers from the party for me and her.
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Wild_Thing
College has become like the gay policy in the military. Don't ask, don't tell.
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You Americans are the friendliest people I've met
by not bitter in........ well at least the ones i encountered on my recent holiday to orlando.
now i know that its a tourist destintion so everyone working in the hotels and parks are on their best behaviour.
but i have been to tourist towns here in the uk and europe but not one is on a par with you guys.. my husband and i haven't stopped talking about to anyone that wants to listen.
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Wild_Thing
In rural parts of Texas, when you pass someone on the road, you wave at them ... or nod. Everyone does it! Kids not from the area get a kick out of it when they visit because they love waving at everybody.
On a side note ... this is a question for the ones that do not live in the states. Here in the US (in the places I have lived), when there is a funeral procession coming down the road, this is what it looks like: there is a hearse and all the cars behind it have their lights on to indicate they are with the procession. Sometimes the procession is escorted by the police. All the other cars on the road (on both sides) pull over to the side of the road until they pass. It is considered a sign of respect. Does this happen in other coutries? Just wondering.
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I'm a target now
by Stirred inwell, it has come to another fork in the road.
i have been going to other meetings and skipping more.
car groups and two bros tried stopping by my house recently but i was not home or gates were locked.
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Wild_Thing
If you officially disassociate, you are acknowledging their system has merit and you are still playing by their rules. Just walk away. You owe them nothing.
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You know, I recently believed that Jesus was a cool guy....
by Muddy Waters inafter leaving the jdub world, for awhile it still seemed like the bible was still a holy book, something valuable, worthy, etc., and that the jw religion had just corrupted it and used it to their own ends.. i thought that jesus was like a bhudda, a guy going around taking about peace and love and who exposed the hypocrisy of the religious leaders.. .
but he also said some hurtful things, harmful things, things like dividing up your family, things like whoever had more affection for their family than for him was not worthy of him, to not take time to bury your father but go preaching instead... to send out his followers without any food for the day but to rely on the kindness of others and believe that that kindness and charity expressed gods blessing and favour.... bah!.
i now believe jesus was just another man, saying both good things and stupid things.
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Wild_Thing
Apognophos, I couldn't have said it better myself!