i have been playing with the idea of trying out different churches lately, just trying to keep an open mind, i notice myself thinking like a jw sometimes, thinking that no other religion is right, well whether there is a "true" religion or not i want to be able to say that at least i didn't give up after being a jw.
so i have been saying to my friends that i want to go to church, we talked about it a bit, but only one of my friends goes more than just christmas, so nothing ever came of it.
well the other day he was over for movies and i mentioned it again( it was saturday night) and he said that his parents are making him go tomorrow if i wanted to go.
I would love to do this. A new church every weekend. I just don't know how I could do it without being punished.
I love seeing how other people live. I wish I could find a church buddy!!!!
Even my inactive or disfellowshipped friends still think it's the truth, so they wouldn't go with me. Well, maybe one of them.......I might ask him in private.
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when you were an active jw, did you feel kind of superior to worldly people in some way?.
Yes.
Shame on me.
no abad-apoll, i haven't been smoking the "wacky t'baccy", but i just got back from a few days in the australian alps.
we took my daughter and her two friends down for her birthday.
so beautiful in the summer - check it out www.thredbo.com.au.
Pigs. come on, you have to admit, it's pigs.
Step, step, step, step.
Oink, oink, oink, oink.
Or.....
I had an awesome fish- It was a Chinese fighting fish. I think maybe it was really some kind of eel. It had a huge head and mouth. It looked exactly like the dragon in a Chinese parade. It killed everything I put in the tank with it. It jumped out of the tank during the night and layed on the floor till morning. I would put it back in the tank and it would live as normal. It was an awe-inspiring creature.
that's what my wife said to me the night before last.
i was making an observation about the way my family and other jws in my life are constantly trying to get me to go to a meeting or read an awake, but they never want to sit down and address the questions i have raised to them.
she then asked me why i can't just move on.
I feel for you, Claw. I slept in a separate bedroom last night, too. What a weird reality. I woke up this morning so disoriented. I didn't know if I should separate our bank accounts or buy her flowers. It sucks. But it helps to know that other people are living through similar experiences.
i will be posting contents of the book "watchtower and the masons" by fritz springmeier.
this is an extremely rare book that is currently out of print.
the information contained here is extremely important in determining what this organization is all about.
I would love to believe this. It would give me the perfect angle to use on my dad, whom I love very much and who loves to read about the Illuminati. But I would also love to win the Powerball. It will probably never happen.
ok so i read in walter martin's the kingdom of the cults how he claims to use the following method to give a testimony to jehovah's witnesses who come to his door periodically, and frankly i find it a bit dubious, despite his claims that he has successfully done it many times.
he calls this method "subliminal seeding" (pg.
487-8) [a dubious title already]:.
From the viewpoint of my former active jw days, I can tell you that I would have just bowed my head while he prayed, said my own prayer in my head, and then timed my amen to coincide with his. Thus I would have given an acceptable prayer, while still pretending to be polite to him. I don't think this tactic would work with any hardcore jw. It is very interesting, though.
really quick, .
my g/f and i took a day trip back to the 'land where i once was a dub' .
i showed her where i lived and worked.
I know the feeling, man. I moved back into the neighborhood I grew up in. It is very strange to try to rationalize my memories of bliss and ignorance with my present situation. But I really think it is better to let yourself see and feel than to ignore your past.
that's what my wife said to me the night before last.
i was making an observation about the way my family and other jws in my life are constantly trying to get me to go to a meeting or read an awake, but they never want to sit down and address the questions i have raised to them.
she then asked me why i can't just move on.
Thanks, Jeff, Gill, and everybody else. I appreciate the advice. It is true, I couldn't possibly move on, given my present situation. It is also true that I need to be the better man. I am going to take that road and see where it leads me. My wife is a good person; I only fear that her WT loyalty will sway her. I never worry that she would willfully hurt me. I am going to buy her a nice present for tomorrow, without mentioning the holiday, and see how it goes.
You guys are all special.
dang man, your site has seen a lot of traffic over the past few years .
nice.
http://www.angelfire.com/trek/littletoe/profile.html.
I opened your talk through ITunes, LT, and when it finished, it melted into "Landslide" by Fleetwood Mac. It was kind of surreal.
that's what my wife said to me the night before last.
i was making an observation about the way my family and other jws in my life are constantly trying to get me to go to a meeting or read an awake, but they never want to sit down and address the questions i have raised to them.
she then asked me why i can't just move on.
I thought I was making progress until we had that conversation. When I bring anything negative up, I can see her face get steely and determined. She gives one word generic answers, and then remains silent. I realized that instead of thinking about what I am saying, she is viewing my comments as opposition, and that scares me. She got so upset that she left the next morning after our discussion without saying a word, and she was gone all day. That has never, ever happened in the seven years of our marriage. I have decided that maybe I will force myself not to say a word; to try to live by example. I don't know what else to do.
