Posts by toby888

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The Awake's Deceptive "Hope For The Poor" (Nov 8)

by metatron in

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frightened, distressed faces photographed in monochrome for greatest effect - that's the cover.

of the nov. 8, 05 awake bearing the title "what hope is there for the poor?.

the article contains consoling statements printed in bold such as "jehovah's witnesses.

toby888

I think the best solution to poverty is Higher Education.

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Was it like this when you left the witnesses?

by Sad emo in

when i finally left the rc church after a long fade and joined another denomination, i got overwhelming feelings of guilt/doubt about what i had done.

i guess it wasn't helped by my sister's reaction to what i had done either - that just hurt even more.. now, 10 years on, i don't get the doubt and guilt as often, but when i do, the feelings seem even worse than they did when i first left almost to the point that i'd consider going back just to make them go away (but then i'd probably feel guilty about going back .

also, i seem to think that more 'bad' stuff has happened to me since leaving and when bad things are happening, i can't get away from the idea that god might be punishing me because i left the 'true' church and am therefore a really evil, sinful person who is only fit for hell and deserves everything i get.

toby888

I am gradually leaving and my wife is still a believer but still I am getting better. For example, I was able to look at some Hindu religous things and not feel a fearful surge of adrenaline at worrying about being influenced by demons. I can't put a price on freedom of mind like that. I am now becoming more of a secular humanist and my decreasing fear-episodes are giving me the encouragement to continue breaking free. Also, this website is providing me with a place where I can keep my sanity. Thanks Everybody!

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An Update

by MM090503 in

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some of you may remember me.

i started posting about a year ago around this time.

my bf is invovled with the jw's.

toby888

Run away as fast as you can and don't give a second look back at this hateful cult! I'm still in but trying to figure out how best to leave. RUN,RUN,RUN!

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What happened to your marriage when you DA'd?

by toby888 in

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can anyone tell me how your marriage has fared after you da'd and your spouse was ( or is) still in?

toby888

Can anyone tell me how your marriage has fared after you DA'd and your spouse was ( or is) still in?

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Human skeletons found in Flores dated back 18,000 years!

by badboy in

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they have found `fossils' of a new human species in liang ???

cave.. only1.5 metres in height, this is of the most exciting disveries to came from east asia.. i wonder what jws will make of this one?

toby888

That's nothing! The "Mungo Man" skeletons in Australia have been recently radiocarbon dated using C-14 AMS method ( Acceleration Mass Spectroscopy) to 42,000 years ago. Let's see an article in the Awake about that one!

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Anybody just plain get fed up and DA?

by toby888 in

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i'm sick and tired and i just can't take it anymore.

i think i can "be all i can be" by joining the world and thinking about da pretty soon.

slow fade may not really work for me.

toby888

I'm sick and tired and I just can't take it anymore. I think I can "be all I can be" by joining The World and thinking about DA pretty soon. Slow fade may not really work for me. I might go nutz. Anybody else actually done this, (get finally fed up and leave) and how did it work out for you?

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Help!! Any advice?

by toby888 in

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thanks old soul and others so much.. as a newbie i have so much to tell, but right now i must tell of my current situation.

i am a "family head" and have a wife and son.

i gradually realized the truth about the truth when my son kept asking really good questions i couldn't answer.

toby888

Guess what I'm after is if anyone else has been in a similar situation, and how they handled it. Worried about my son losing it because he has buddies at school that are users as he has told me. Looks like "being in the truth" wasn't much help for him, either. Thanks for asking me to think a little more.

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Help!! Any advice?

by toby888 in

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thanks old soul and others so much.. as a newbie i have so much to tell, but right now i must tell of my current situation.

i am a "family head" and have a wife and son.

i gradually realized the truth about the truth when my son kept asking really good questions i couldn't answer.

toby888

Thanks Old Soul and others so much.. As a newbie I have so much to tell, but right now I must tell of my current situation. I am a "family head" and have a wife and son. I gradually realized the truth about the truth when my son kept asking really good questions I couldn't answer. I felt so bad, that it was my fault I coudn't get "satisfying answers". My feelings of inadequacy ( he wouldn't go to service anymore) led me to step down from my position. Eventually came upon a web post about the Evolution book. I was disgusted when I saw for myself Darwin deliberatly misquoted. I smelled a rat, and began to feel about the society like I did about my hypocritical Dad when I discovered nasty magazines in his dresser. After I thouroughly trashed the evolution book in my own research, I began refusing to accept anything the society says at face value. Now I know everything "they" don't want me to know. I also know how traumatic it was for me a few months ago, and I'm afraid if I back out too quick my son will lose it and make the wrong choices and fly into drugs. My wife and son know all about my troubles, and I told my son that if he decides the WT org is not for him, fine, but not to be too fast about leaving. I told him that in the world people have more freedom and so moral values run the gamut so he has to be much more choosy about the friends he chooses "in the world", meantime not to toss his close friends "in the truth" away entirely. Fortunatly he is not baptized, and I had the forsight not to home-school him, in the hopes that he won't be totally mal-adjusted. So I run the risk of being sucked back into the borg or being found out as long as I'm in, and if I leave now my son might lose it altogether.I'm frankly scared to death of attending the next assembly in a few weeks sometimes I think I'll go bonkers. Help.

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leaving

by Lo-ru-hamah in

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to those of you that have been jw's for many years... i would like to know how it is that you have transferred to your new life.

my family and i are in the process, actually, we have left because of many of the issues brought up on this forum.

this, being jw's, is all that we have ever known.

toby888

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leaving

by Lo-ru-hamah in

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to those of you that have been jw's for many years... i would like to know how it is that you have transferred to your new life.

my family and i are in the process, actually, we have left because of many of the issues brought up on this forum.

this, being jw's, is all that we have ever known.

toby888

I am leaving too and I sympathise so much with what you are going through. Decided that the outfit was a cult for sure a few months ago and since have been determined to back out slowly. It has been very difficult, but what I have learned on the net here has been indispensible. I have gone through all the classic post-traumatic stress syndromes: Sometimes I get a random adrenaline surge for no reason, sometimes I break out in a perfuse sweat for no apparent reason. Also persistent difficulty in concentrating on one task, like work. Fortunately, my symptoms are improving. Instead of breaking off all meetings altogether it has been easier for me to back out more slowly, so as not to get too much attention onto myself. I no longer feel guilty about not going to service and getting more people into this cult. I have to still combat mind control at the meetings I do go to, but I'm getting better at it. I think time heals all wounds, and I do feel myself getting stronger. Now I am chomping at the bit to leave but my family is still in so I have to be very careful.