mmmmm...poutine....
yum. :)
i decided to take a car ride to see my good friend buttlight, who lives in wisconsin.
the first thing i did was to go in her basement .
then, to feel right at home, i ate a home made poutine .
mmmmm...poutine....
yum. :)
i know that as a youngster, i felt pretty good about myself because i remained "faithful" and didn't eat birthday cake while everyone else was enjoying it.......i know of wives that came into the hall with a black eye "for jehovah" and were almost deified because of their "stand".
were you persecuted for righteousness sake?
how did it make you feel????
Oh yeah I felt sooo good be persecuted and put down and picked on and beat up that now, the lexapro and abilify and trazadone, and buspar helps me to feel good too in the sight of persecution. :)
it was a complete social disconnect, that I'm sure many of us lived with. Once out, how did one relate to anything after being outside of the norms of society (and reality) for so long.
Funny thing is? Now when anyone's critical of me, in any capacity, I have a very hard time putting it all into perspective and have a tendency to react in a hostile manner.
All of this "loving christian upbringing."...and my merry-go-round broke down.
i recently started dating a woman that has stopped practicing the religion of jehovahs witness.
i am very confused on so many things that this religion believes.
i would like some input from anyone out therer that can help me...i am a catholic and i have certain things about my religion i don't believe but i dont understand the whole idea that if you leave the jehovahs witness and have been baptized you are no longer allowed to talk to your family and friends of this religion.
She's at a loss and feeling the pain of being shunned...
My only advice is this..."Friends are the family you make for yourself." - Anonymous
I know that sounds really general and it glosses over a lot of the nuances of being shunned...but this isn't her problem. It's her family's problem. Does it hurt? God yes, it hurts...but it's all about building a support system that doesn't rely upon conditions for it to function. I now have friends and 'family' in my life that love me unconditionally, and that won't change (well not unless I destroy one of their garden gnomes or something...)
I've been on the receiving end of the shunning stick...and once I started reaching out to others and building a network for myself that was free from conditionality, that was when the pain lessened a little...do I miss them? Yeah...but would I be willing to sacrifice my own personal beliefs and code to regain their 'conditional' love? No way!
Not sure if that helps at all or if I just typed a pile of nonsense. I do that from time to time. Best of luck to ya...just be there for her. That's all any of us can do with one another.
>i wonder what would happen if we treated our bible like we treat our cell.
>phones?.
>what if we carried it around in our purses or pockets?.
Well...then I would have been on the fourth or fifth incarnation of the bible, if that was the case.
First one, run over by the car...second one, dropped in french onion soup...third one...it just fritzed out! Fourth one...it was old-fashioned so i upgraded to the fifth one....
what was the question again? ;)
we spend about $500 per month.
that's with a family of three, two adults and one small child.
included in that is dog and cat food, and other household items many people buy at the grocery store, such as shampoo, detergent, paper products etc.
wow...orgies...for $600 a month! What a steal! ;)
Now groceries on the other hand...probably about $250 a month in Virginia. That's for two people...but we also eat out some so that price goes into a different pile than groceries. :)
shopworker in line for 120,000 after suffering homophobic bullying05.03.07 add your view.
marlene bielak: suffered months of bullying at the hands of a colleague who disapproved of her homosexual lifestyle.
a lesbian shop assistant is in line for more than 120,000 after leaving her job because of a colleague's taunts about her sexuality.
How's that for christian love eh?
I hope she takes that witness hypocrite to the cleaners.
just finished jury duty today, what a pain in the behind.. now i can't sleep, keep thinking about everything.. judicial system seems like a big bueracratic waste of money.. i found the oaths here in pa interesting though :.
the oath is part of centuries-old language still in use in most courtrooms.
pennsylvania's oath is derived from colonial laws of the commonwealth, enacted in 1772, and reads: "you [and each of you] do swear by almighty god, the searcher of all hearts, that the evidence you shall give this court [and jury] in this issue now being tried shall be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth and as you shall answer to god on the last great day.".
I'm serving on jury duty now...I was actually the foreman (or foreperson, curse those pesky PC wordgamesters!) on a trial last week. Malicious wounding...we deliberated for four hours. It wasn't an easy thing for me to find the person guilty, but there wasn't enough reasonable doubt to prove him innocent in our points of view.
I have another week to go...I don't mind it overmuch. I bring a book and take it all in stride...it's SO MUCH MORE INTERESTING than sitting in a district convention for eight hours that's for sure. :)
the door to door work is a sham.. the central activity of the watchtower bible and tract society is not spreading their so-called "messege" about the kingdom of jehovah established in the heavens in 1914. that's a load of propaganda.. the door to door activity is feckless in producing converts.
in fact, it is an immense failure of mammoth proportions!.
but, it is a diversion.
well God-Bless Scientology then!
Wait a minute...this isn't scientology's tactics? It's Jehovah's Witnesses?
Well hrm...that's...interesting.
;)
if a creator god is real and he is the source of life well then i would certainly acknowledge that and give him thanks for my existence and for the universe i live in.
but obedience?.
my mum and dad gave me life, ensured my education, looked after my health and wellbeing, loved me, taught me the value of kindness and friendships and so much more.
what a great question. :)
I used to think this...god created us in his image right? And look what we've done...war, murder, etc. We've done some interesting things too...but ultimately we breed and destroy. In 'his' image, right? So obidience is earned at least in this case, out of fear. Fear of destruction.
I don't obey something because it's there. I obey things because they make sense, socially, morally, psychologically. As a matter of fact, to disobey god is to be godlike, because we were 'created' in his image, no? You think god can stand a bit of irony?
Forsharry of the "And if he wrote the script, then why the trouble-maker?" Class
just saying hi, and i am soooooo glad to find this site.
i have been out of the org.
for about 7 years now, and am just now feeling fully free.
welcome aboard the flying basket! :)
so glad you could join us!